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June 19, 2009: While the Taliban have been successful with their human shield tactics, they have done so at great cost to the popularity of the Islamic radical group. The Taliban were never noted for their desire to be popular. These guys are on a mission from God, and earthly trifles do not concern them. While the frequent use of human shields has spared the Taliban some casualties, and sometimes made it easier to escape death or capture (mainly because the propaganda value of dead civilians has caused the rules of engagement for foreign troops to become more restrictive), the practice has increased Afghan hostility to the Taliban. This means that the Taliban increasingly find themselves operating in a hostile environment as they move through Afghanistan. This is made worse by the fact that many Taliban units are often half, or more, composed of foreigners. Many of these are Pakistanis, who at least look like Afghans (and only betray themselves when they speak, and reveal a foreign accent). But a growing number of foreigners are Arabs, who are generally disliked throughout Pakistan. This is because many Arabs look down on Afghans, and often do not try to hide this disdain. Moreover, Arabs are more eager to carry out suicide bomb attacks that kill lots of civilians. Afghans see these Arabs as bringing the terror tactics that failed in Iraq, to Afghanistan. These tactics kill lots more civilians than foreign or Afghan soldiers, and most Afghans want no part of it.  Afghans have also noticed that a lot of the violence in their country consists of foreigners fighting foreigners, and killing any Afghans who happen to be nearby.

Taking advantage of the declining popularity of the Taliban, the U.S. has implemented a rehabilitation program for captured Taliban. First, the hard core (beyond rehab) Taliban are separated out and isolated. Those deemed capable of rehabilitation are given religious instruction by mainstream clerics, and job training. The religious instruction is the most important aspect of all this, as most of the Taliban are uneducated country boys who got sold an attractive, but false, religious doctrine by Taliban recruiters. Many of the captured Taliban were only in it for the money, but some did buy into the "Mission From God" angle. The U.S. first developed this segregate and rehabilitate program during World War II, when they found fanatic Nazi German POWs were intimidating and organizing less dedicated (to the Nazi cause) POWs into violent acts and misbehavior in general.

The Taliban have been calling for foreign Islamic radicals to come to Afghanistan and help out. These men will fight for free, and the Taliban does not have enough cash to hire as many gunmen as it would like to have. Meanwhile, some al Qaeda operatives are leaving, mainly because of the growing civilian hostility to Islamic terrorism, and the increasing activity of Afghan and foreign troops.

June 18, 2009:  Afghan troops arrested Taliban leader (Mullah Shah Mohammad) in Farah province (next to Taliban heartland Helmand province). Also captured was documents, opium and a large cache of weapons.

June 15, 2009: Interrogations of captured Taliban indicate that the terrorist group is under orders to generate maximum violence this Summer, and try to make a mess of the presidential elections (with its 40 candidates). While there has been an increase in violence, most of the victims have been Taliban. For example, in the last week, over 250 died (48 civilians, 30 policemen and 176 Taliban, plus about a dozen Afghan and foreign soldiers), and the pattern of deaths was pretty much the same as it's always been. The Taliban go out of their way to anger local civilians. For example, this year they are more intent on trying to impose lifestyle rules. Thus when the Taliban come across a wedding, they will beat up the musicians (in one case they left them tied to trees overnight), and otherwise spoil a good time. Under the Taliban view of Islam, music and movies are not allowed, and Taliban will search homes and destroy any tapes, CDs or DVDs they find. Parents who send their daughters to school will be beaten, and the schools burned down, and teachers murdered.

June 14, 2009: Police arrested two al Jazeera producers who had filmed an interview with a Taliban leader, which was recently broadcast worldwide. The two men were later released, with a warning to stop making propaganda for the Taliban.

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Andrew    Source for the goose   6/19/2009 7:34:56 AM
This is an interesting and well-written piece, but in the absence of any hint of the author's background or a reference to sources, how are we supposed to know whether it carries any authority or was just invented?
 
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BB45    info not revealed   6/19/2009 3:52:58 PM
Good thought Andrew, but strat page almost never reveals its sources.  So we never know if the information is accurate or not.  You are not the first reader to request this info.  I guess the best thing is to just go to several other similar sites and see if they corroborate any of stat page's pieces.   
 
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Whispering Death       6/19/2009 6:12:18 PM

Yeah, the biggest weakness of SP is its insistence on never naming sources.  So you never know if they're making it up, hearing something 2nd hand, or being suckered by a propagandist.


Last summer there was a battle in Afghanistan they reported a certain number of dead Taliban that was about 5x as high as the reports from more reputable new sources.

 

So you never know how accurate the info is.  But it's interesting to read as long as you maintain the perspective that it's all unsourced and uncorroborated information.

 
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WarNerd       6/19/2009 6:42:39 PM
All information on the internet needs to be considered suspect until proofen otherwise.
 
Several common sources that require a good deal of skepticism include:
Wikipedia - Some of the people who control access have definite political agendas.  Many articles are fair but limited, but some are just plain wrong and vigorously defended.
 
Main Stream News (MSN) services - A catch all for the major reporting organizations.  The drive to be first to report an item, coupled with a frequent lack of knowledge and understanding what is being reported and a refusal to acknowledge mistakes, results in a lot of speculative and erroneous articles that are never corrected.
 
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Brand'n    Not with you, andrew   6/20/2009 3:58:01 PM
This is an interesting and well-written piece, but in the absence of any hint of the author's background or a reference to sources, how are we supposed to know whether it carries any authority or was just invented?
Fair point, Andrew.  But SP usually provides lots of detail. That's on weapons, tactics, but also background to the news.
SP was reporting that certain things and tactics were going right in Iraq.  SP reported the gest of things to come.  SP did this about 12-24 months while mainstream media were considering Iraq a lost cause, and would only report suicide attacks and casualties.
Now in retrospect, what happened?
 
My point is, SP is not objective but it does know what it's talking about. They provide so much detail (down to the calibers used), that if you can check anything to be at fault, please let us know.
 
 
 
 
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jak267       6/20/2009 9:52:46 PM
Until you start going after the Taliban members, families, villages, and tribes, nothing is going to change.
 
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WarNerd       6/21/2009 3:53:58 AM

My point is, SP is not objective but it does know what it's talking about. They provide so much detail (down to the calibers used), that if you can check anything to be at fault, please let us know.

As opposed to the main stream media, which seems to take pride in their willful ignorance of the subject matter they report on.
 
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