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It Ain't Me, Babe

June 5, 2009:  The U.S. is applying more pressure on Israel to remove Jewish settlements from the West Bank. But those settlements are popular with a large minority of Israelis, and no Israeli government can survive without the support of the pro-settler parties. Israel is making more of an effort to remove illegal settlements, at the risk of internal disunity in the Jewish community. But that does not satisfy the new U.S. policy. American critics also play down the fact that the extremists among settler supporters want to expel all Arabs from the West Bank, and that these extremists are gaining more supporters as the Palestinians continue to be unable to unite or negotiate.

Meanwhile, Israeli and Fatah police continue to hunt down and arrests Hamas activists in the West Bank. Terrorism and relentless attacks on Israel are still popular with many Palestinians. Fatah is still a big time hater of Israel and Jews, but here they are accepting Israeli aid simply to defeat a rival.

The UN has a team of investigators in Gaza, gathering evidence of Israeli war crimes during the 22 day war earlier in the year. The UN condemns Palestinian terrorism, but does little to halt it, and condemns many Israeli counter-terror efforts as war crimes. The UN is under pressure from Moslem states to condemn Israel at every opportunity, and accept the idea that terrorism against Israel is justified because Israel is a racist nation that oppresses Arabs. Anyone who disagrees with that in the UN (and outside it) is labeled a racist and not worthy of debating anything with. The reality is that the Middle East is full of racial, ethnic and political disputes between, and within nations. This abundance of ill-will plays a large role in the higher poverty rates in the region (second only to sub-Saharan Africa) and general lack of education and economic progress. Arabs refuse to recognize these problems, and that, in turn, is yet another part of why the region is a mess.

So far, Lebanon has arrested 35 people and charged them with spying for Israel. Another 23 are being sought. Israel has said nothing, not even a call for an investigation of "what went wrong" with espionage efforts in Lebanon. That effort was more extensive than even the Lebanese, and Hezbollah, expected. Moreover, the Lebanese have discovered that Israeli espionage is even more extensive than the current arrests indicate.

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Tamerlane    Palestine suddenly appeared in 1967   6/5/2009 8:43:45 AM
Anybody ever seen a Palestinian passport or any other Palestinian document issued before 6 June 1967?  Seems that the Israelis seized E Jerusalem, West Bank etc. from the Jordanians, Syrians and Egytptians, and it seems that they have not exactly been militating to get "Palestine" returned to them.
 
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Headlock       6/5/2009 11:48:58 AM
That Lebanon/Hezbollah hare aware of the identities of 58 agents is incredible. Thats a massive expionage operation, and a massive breach of security to allow that many people to be identified, and ove rhalf of them captured.


The scale, speed  and size of this counter-espionage event would signify a sudden and highlevel loss of an agent(s), critical list/data, or both.


Seems like mossad's been given a fair sized kicking....
 
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Beazz       6/5/2009 2:26:44 PM

That Lebanon/Hezbollah hare aware of the identities of 58 agents is incredible. Thats a massive expionage operation, and a massive breach of security to allow that many people to be identified, and ove rhalf of them captured.







The scale, speed  and size of this counter-espionage event would signify a sudden and highlevel loss of an agent(s), critical list/data, or both.







Seems like mossad's been given a fair sized kicking....

 

hdk

Guess it's all in who you believe huh? Personally, because Hezbollah and the Syrian puppet regime in Lebanon *says* they got all these agents doesn't mean squat to me and sure as heck don't make it so. It's common knowledge they are paranoid with a capital P and arrest innocent people routinely for *spying* for Israel. If you don't carry a sign saying "death to Israel" that makes you an Israeli spy in the eyes of those clowns. lol
Sounds to me like more desperation on the part of the Arab terrorists!! As ususal, they lose. Along with the innocent people they most likely arrested.
 
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Photon       6/5/2009 2:53:40 PM

The US pressuring Israel to remove the settlers from the West Bank?  How much more comical can the current US foreign policy be?  I do not particularly in favor or against Jewish settlements in the West Bank.  However, where I find this episode ridiculous is the point of trying to pressure Israel and expect to get what kind of a return from the Arab opinion-makers?  Is this going to make a snot amount of difference?  Trying to show diplomatic clout for its own sake?  When will the clowns in Washington will learn that the more silly motions they make, the less others will take them seriously in the long run?

 
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Whispering Death       6/6/2009 12:34:06 PM
Obama's foreign policy has become clear, it's the detente strategy.  He wants to use his position to pressure each side of a conflict to take steps backwards. 

We'll see if it works.  Didn't work during the cold war.
 
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cwDeici       6/7/2009 6:38:09 AM

Obama's foreign policy has become clear, it's the detente strategy.  He wants to use his position to pressure each side of a conflict to take steps backwards. 



We'll see if it works.  Didn't work during the cold war.



One sideis able to step backwards.
The other side is either barely aware of the concept or fanatically refuse the possibility.
 
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cwDeici       6/7/2009 6:39:13 AM
Of course there are some seculars and leftist heretic muslims who would be willing to make peace, and a large section of the population are people who just want to live and let live, despite their religions.
 
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