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June 30, 2009: Balkan diplomacy struggles on. A UN mediator will sponsor new talks in July between Greece and Macedonia, in an attempt to resolve "The Name War." Greece insists that Macedonia be called the FYROM (FOrmer Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia).

June 24, 2009: The government of Moldova said that it will continue to require Romanian citizens visiting Moldova to meet visa requirements. A political tit for tat is going on. Moldova wants the European Union (Romania is an EU member) to lift visa requirements on Moldovans. Also, Moldova's current government has accused Romania of being involved in the post-election demonstrations following the April 2009 national elections.

Former Bosnian Muslim militia commander Nasir Oric, who was active during the Bosnia war, was sentenced to two years in jail for illegally possessing weapons and explosives.

June 22, 2009: The Greek terrorist group Revolutionary Sect claimed "credit" for the murder of a Greek policemen. The policeman was killed on June 17 while protecting a witness who is testifying against members of an another terror group, the Peoples Revolutionary Struggle (ELA).

June 19, 2009: The presidents of 14 Balkan and central European nations recommended that the "western Balkans" be integrated into the European Union. One of the subjects discussed by the presidents was liberalizing visa requirements for non-EU Balkan nations. What is interesting about the recommendation is that Serbia was included as a candidate for EU accession.

June 18, 2009: The government of Serbia sentenced four former Serb militia leaders to long prison sentences for war crimes committed in Kosovo in 1999.

The government of Turkey asked federal prosecutors to investigate the possible involvement of the Turkish military in a conspiracy to "destabilize" the government led by the "moderate Islamist" Justice and Development Party (AKP). This is actually a very big deal in Turkey. The military has the constitutional authority to protect Turkey's secular state (a mandate from Kemal Ataturk, founder of the Turkish republic).

June 17, 2009: Serbia remains opposed to Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence. The Serb government said that it would never recognize Kosovo as a "separate entity."

June 16, 2009: The European Union said that Serbia must begin to deal with Kosovo as a separate country if Serbia wants to join the EU.

The president of Moldova dissolved Moldova's parliament and called for new national elections. The new elections are scheduled for July 29. Moldova's April 2009 elections resulted in extensive protests and produced a parliament that could not elect a new president.

 

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Macedonian    FYROM   6/30/2009 11:47:34 AM
Greece, by my understanding, and many Greeks do not insist that Macedonia be called FYROM. Macedonia (the Greek administrative district) has been inhabited by Greeks (ratio 4:1 of Greeks against Slavs in 1912 according to a League of Nations estimate, see below) since ancient times. Greece insists that Macedonia be called Macedonia, while the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, set up by Tito for the first time in 1944-45 just as he began lending support to a communist uprising in Hellenic Macedonia, that country Greece and many Greeks insist should have a name that reflects its own separate identity. Slavic or Yugoslavic Macedonia, Povardarje, Vardarska or similar adjectives would be appropriate. Our Greek and Macedonian heritage was not invented out of a hat, it cannot be bought in a cheap sale. History and heritage are not commodities one can buy and sell. History has a scientific basis. Ethnicity cannot jump from one people to another as an exercise of free will. If that kind of attitide were to generally prevail what would stop anybody from claiming any former empires, future empires, former legacies, foreign territory and so on, regardless of the insult to decency.

League of Nations, demographic estimates in Hellenic Macedonia 1912
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jak267       7/1/2009 6:49:29 AM
Serbia has no right to an opinion about anything. It should have been wiped off the map.
 
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trenchsol       7/1/2009 9:36:20 AM
Hi, Macedonian !
 
You have provided an interesting information about Yugoslav involvement in Greek insurgency. I lived in Yugoslavia, now in Croatia, and there was no information about it released ever.  It was natural, because  Yugoslavia was paranoid communist  dictatorship, police state and  oppressive regime., led by terrorist Tito who used to plant explosive devices in his early years. Supporting insurgency  goes along with  his mentality quite well.
 
Can you provide some further reading, please  (links) ?
 
Considering Republic of Macedonia, almost all of the people living there today have grown up calling themselves Macedonians. It might be incorrect, but they believe that it is their national identity.  Can be possibly resolved by an separate signed act, where Republic of Macedonia  would  pledge not to have any claims to Greek  province of Macedonia ?
 
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Macedonian    That was the stipulation in the UN Interim Agreement   7/2/2009 10:47:40 AM

Trenchsol,

 

Thank you for your kind remarks. The League of Nations document link does not seem to work, I will quote it once again in case this time it becomes properly linked:

 

League of Nations, demographic estimates in Hellenic Macedonia 1912
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The 20th C situation with Hellenic Macedonia and the Yugoslav attentions is referred to here:

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The Greek communists received all their military supplies until 1949 from countries of the Communist Block, mainly Yugoslavia and Albania. Tito had initially hoped that the whole of Greece would become part of a Communist Balkan Confederation which he would lead (he had expressed this view in his memoirs). After the Yalta Agreement and the decisions taken there, he was hoping that at least part of Greece would come under the Balkan Confederation. The creation of a Yugoslav ?Macedonia? in 1944-45 fitted well in that context.

 

The Interim Agreement on the basis of which FYROM entered the UN stipulated a solution to the name issue and an abandonment on demands on Hellenic Macedonia, as you suggest. However, already without granting the name Macedonia, which is what you seem to propose, FYROM in the 11 years since has not made a single proposal about how the name issue should be resolved.  Moreover school books in FYROM since that time have adopted a policy of teaching that Macedonia became dismembered and should re-unified:

 

Revisionism in the schoolbooks of the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM)

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So what you are suggesting has already failed. In any case, it cannot possibly be that the world will have to erase 2000 years of Greek history and destroy all relevant museum collections, the books of Herodotus, Arrian, etc, so that FYROM can adopt the name Macedonia and the pseudohistory associated with it. When people hold erroneous views, the normal response is better education not support for the fallacies. FYROM, if they want to keep the name Macedonia, they should make it clear in the name they adopt that they draw a line that separates them from what is Greek (a name such as Slavomacedonia). It cannot be that the name would be such that it will allow FYROM to maintain or revive expansionist policies. A name such as Macedonia for FYROM, without any qualification, is simply not admissible. That has been recognized by the UN and is the basis of the Interim Agreement. It is a Greek name of a Greek region and a part of Greek history, a Greek word attested since Herodotus, Homer and Hesiod and in continuous use since, continuously inhabited by Greeks. People in both countries have been educated to believe in certain things about Macedonia. Greeks live in the historic region of Macedonia and speak the attested language found in Macedonian coins, inscriptions, placenames, city names, festivals, etc: the Greek language.  The inhabitants of FYROM speak either a Slavic or Albanian language and do not live in the historic region of Macedonia. They have no established continuity with Macedonian history that anyone outside FYROM would believe in. Why should they become upset more than the Greeks in a compromise?

 
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