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India-Pakistan: The Greatest Story Never Told
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March 21, 2010: In Pakistan's tribal territories, the pro and anti Taliban factions are fighting it out. There are clashes and casualties daily. The animosities are partly generational (ambitious young guys want to take over), partly ideological (secular versus religious solutions). This was made possible when the army moved into the tribal territories last year. This gave the older leaders (the "tribal elders") support, because the more dynamic and fanatic Taliban leaders successfully used terrorism and sheer audacity to intimidate the more numerous moderate tribesmen. Now, with the unprecedented (in the history of Pakistan) presence of the army in the tribal territories, the tribal militias are able to hunt down the surviving Taliban groups, and demanding they disband. Many already have, but those who have not are being forced to fight, or keep running. Many are fleeing to Afghanistan, which is not very safe, but is marginally safer than the Pakistani tribal territories.

Despite this success, many tribal leaders are calling on the army to finish off the Taliban. But the army fears getting involved in a lot of "Taliban fighting" which is actually a tribal feud. Then there's the matter of cost. It's costing the government billions of dollars to run this operation in the tribal territories. That's money the generals can't steal, and it's sorely missed. The Americans are unwilling to foot the entire bill, and Pakistani troops from the lowlands are not enthusiastic about fighting the tribesmen. Watching the tribal warriors kill each other, however, is another matter.

Meanwhile, tribal chiefs try to shame the generals by mentioning Sri Lanka, where, a year ago, the army defeated a rebel movement. But that took years of fighting, and the Pakistani army is not willing to lose thousands of troops for that kind of victory. If the tribes don't want the Taliban running their lives, then purge the Taliban from your communities yourselves. The generals also point out (quietly) that, if the army has to finish this fight, there will be more civilian casualties. While the air force has lots of smart bombs now, these will still kill civilians being used by the Taliban as human shields. And the army artillery and helicopter rockets are not aided by GPS.

The most terrifying aspect of the current war is the increased success of American UAVs, and their Hellfire missiles, for killing Taliban and al Qaeda leaders. This makes it kind of personal for the leaders, and paranoia has been rampant. The Taliban tend to believe they are tracked mostly by local informants, and are always looking for suspects. Anyone appearing suspicious enough is tortured, usually to death, to obtain information about American methods. The suspects usually know nothing, but are frequently beheaded, as a warning to others.

The arrest of Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, the chief Taliban military commander, last month, has resulted in complaints from some Western diplomats that this sort of thing was done by Pakistani Islamic radicals, in the government, to upset peace talks with the Taliban. Baradar was seen as more willing to negotiate. Pakistani and Afghan leaders see this as absurd, as there are plenty of Taliban leaders to talk to, and most are, to one degree or another, willing to make a deal. This sort of thing makes many Pakistanis wonder whose side their Western allies are really on.

In Kashmir, India has noted a sharp decrease (by at least a third) in terrorist activity this year, and far fewer foreign terrorists (only about a third of them are from Pakistan or elsewhere.) Over the last two years, 75 percent of the terrorists killed were foreigners. Part of the reason for this shift is better security on the Line of Control (border between Indian and Pakistani Kashmir), but there are also fewer attempts by Islamic terrorists to cross the line. The Pakistani government offensive against Islamic terrorists in the past year seems to have drawn in the Islamic radicals who usually specialize in attacks on Indian Kashmir. The success of the Pakistani counter-terror campaign has caused many terrorists to unite and try to halt the government effort.

As the Pakistani government regains control over more of the tribal territories, they are finding that many local officials had become very corrupt. Partly, this was a response to Taliban, and tribal pressure, when officials had no army or police to back them. So you make deals with the locals, take what bribes you can, and keep your head down. No more. These officials are now being asked to step up, and many are turning out to be ineffective. The government is slow in replacing them, partly because replacements are reluctant to take over such jobs in the tribal territories, no matter how pacified the army insists the region is.

The Indian offensive against thousands of armed Maoists in eastern areas of the country, is making life difficult for the communist rebels. Leaders are being caught, some of them quite senior. A surprising number of key Maoists are surrendering, using the presence of so many police and troops, as an opportunity to quit the rebel group. Maoists execute anyone they suspect of disloyalty. In general, Maoists try to keep their key people isolated from government controlled populations. This makes arrest, and desertion, less likely. But the government invasion of their territory has disrupted this isolation. Of particular importance were the medical clinics the Maoists had established in areas where they had driven out the government officials. These clinics were ostensibly to treat locals, but their main purpose was to keep Maoists from having to use hospitals, in government controlled areas.

Some of the most senior Maoist leaders have apparently disappeared. In response, leftist politicians, and Maoists themselves, are calling for an investigation of the police, to see if these senior Maoists are being held illegally and tortured. The Maoists have threatened terrorist attacks if these secret arrests have taken place.

March 20, 2010: In Lahore (a city of 10 million), Pakistan, police seized 200 kg (440 pounds of explosives, suicide bomb vests and other terrorist supplies. Several arrests were made. These raids have become increasingly successful. Last week, 4.5 tons of explosives were seized, and arrests are being made daily. As the capital of Punjab province, Lahore is a favorite terrorist target. But most of the population is very hostile to the Islamic radicals, if only because most of the victims of attacks are civilians. The terrorists insist they only target the government and security forces, but the attacks are not skillful enough to avoid civilians being the most frequent victims.  The prevalence of cell phones has made it easy to report suspicious behavior.

In southwest Pakistan (Baluchistan), several terror attacks, left seven dead. Three of the dead were Shia Moslems, indicating an upsurge of Shia-Sunni violence in the area. Sunni Moslem tribesmen have been running a terror campaign across the border in Iran for over a decade, which has inflamed the ancient animosities between Shia majority Iranians, and Sunni Baluchi tribesmen in Pakistan and Iran.

March 18, 2010: American and Pakistani officials announced that a UAV missile apparently killed al Qaeda leader Hussein al Yemeni. This guy was believed responsible for planning the suicide bomb attack on a CIA base in eastern Afghanistan last December. The number of UAV missile attacks on Taliban and al Qaeda leaders is increasing, causing noticeable disruption in al Qaeda and Taliban operations. The terrorist leaders are reluctant to meet to discuss who the replacements will be, and spend much more of their time concentrating on personal security. Yet the American missiles keep finding them. The American intelligence effort is believed to be a combination of electronic monitoring, air reconnaissance, data mining and local informants. Details are obviously kept secret, but it will make a fascinating story when it finally can be told.

 

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mariner    Slumdogs voice   3/21/2010 11:06:50 AM
 
-The recent visit of M.Singh in Russia is an opportunity for India to again sign billions of arms deals with Russia. Despite having sign similar contract with US, EU, and Israel, Russia is still a major arms provider for India. It is worth to note that each time M.Singh visit a foreign country, it is an opportunity for India to sign weapons deal and procurement. The recent visit of Singh in the US has been settled with Billions of promise that India would buy all the hi-tech and mass destruction weapons from the US militaro industry.
-During these recent days India has been rocked by strikes, manifestations and civil unrests (Times of India). The slumdogs are protesting against the rising prices of basic commodities and petroleum products. The government tries to prevent civil unrests through the release of new Bollywood films in which every Indian are billionaires and the Indian boys fall in love with a white female and where in every Bollymood films we could see more and more Eastern EU white female dancers. Bollywoods films have always been used as a dream world for the slumdogs to forget their harsh reality. So Bollywood has an obligation to release a maximun of millions of rupees budget films to prevent social protests. Now Bollywood has become a major industry worth of billions of dollar equivalent to the annual value of India's arms import.
-The Indian police forces deal with a very strong hand against such  social unrests. Protesters are heavily beaten with long batons and held in jail manu-military.
-Western media never report on these Indian social unrests given that they should preserve the good reputation of India. If such protests break up in China, CNN would be quick to report them and named them as 'China unrests' in an attempt to tarnish the reputation of China and use the human rights pretext as a tool to condemn China. The Indian police forces are not better than the Chinese communist police forces, the Indian police forces are even more violent against their own slumdogs than their Chinese counterparts.
-India is still considered by Westerners as a religious country- a hare krishna model of love and peace prevailing in the 70s. But for having live in India for 10 years I could tell strategypage that this is very far from what I had seen. 
-India is indeed a violent country where human life conditions are hundred times worst compare to China. Hindus radicals use to persecute ethnic minorities. They recently burn many catholic churches and kill many Indian catholic. Moreover there is growing violence between Hindu and Indian Muslim radicals. In the 90's thousand of Indians died in Hindu-Muslims ethnic violences regarding the construction of a mosque on Hindu holy soil. Western Media had never reported on such violences. Theft, mendicity and racketting prevail in all Indian cities outside the tourist circuit. In fact a white western tourist is never safe outside the traditional Indian tourist circuit.
-India is also home of Hindus radicals, mujahideens, Hindus terrorists and of course Islamist terrorist. The London and Glasgow terrorists bombings had an India connection. However Western media had played a low profile on this.
-Indians just like their Chinese counterparts kill their female babies and million of lost female babies have been reported. This is not only a Chinese issue as somebody in strategypage has commented on my view by believing that that only Chinese peasants who throw away their female babies. In fact the one child policy forces many desperate Chinese peasants to kill their first female born babies. This is not an excuse but the Indian are more to be blame given that thire is no such one child policy in India. Many problems and issues happening in China are not specific to China and many countries do face same problems.
-Just like communist China, India is also rocked by internal ethnic violences like Hindus vs catholic, Hindus vs Muslim and also the Indian government has launched a violent crackdown against the maoists. Para military and the Indian Army have launched a major offensive against the maoists who also have been using the rule of rackets, rape, murder and terrorism against Indian villagers. However such offensive has never been reported by Western media in view of preserving the good reputation of India. What would happen if China had launched similar offensive against its ethnic minority like the CIA led tibetans and Ouigur? China would have faced world condemnation and embargo. However such offensive by India is normal as India is a democracy (thanks to the British colonization which had installed the westmisterian type democracy in India or otherwise India would have been an African type dictatorship.)
 
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Hamilcar    Why are you a racist bigot?   3/21/2010 5:44:34 PM
Just curious.
 
One more thing, what is a PRC bandit, like you, doing in Mauritius? Isn't raping the Sudan enough for you imperialist running dogs of Beijing Bandit colonialism?

H.
 
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Lance Winslow    History Speaketh   3/22/2010 12:13:12 AM
Indeed, when all this ends and the Taliban is completely out of juice and defeated, along with Al Qaeda, this will be a great story to read in the annals of history. Good point.
 
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mariner    To my friend Hamilcar   3/22/2010 11:14:12 AM
Hamilcar, I would like to meet you physically and I would have taught you some good manners. You do not know what a big mixed chinese african guy can do particularly to small white male. Strategypage should have blocked u for ur vulgar and insulting language. Regarding colonialism I would refer u to my previous post. The west have depleted the natural and human resources of Africa, it is responsible for slavery, for famine in Africa, for mass killings in Zaire and Burundi besides the West  have military bases in Africa and it has the military capacity to intervene in Sudan so u dare to blame our beloved holy motherland, China for all the sins the West has committed?
 
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Hamilcar       3/22/2010 12:00:47 PM

Hamilcar, I would like to meet you physically and I would have taught you some good manners. You do not know what a big mixed chinese african guy can do particularly to small white male. Strategypage should have blocked u for ur vulgar and insulting language. Regarding colonialism I would refer u to my previous post. The west have depleted the natural and human resources of Africa, it is responsible for slavery, for famine in Africa, for mass killings in Zaire and Burundi besides the West  have military bases in Africa and it has the military capacity to intervene in Sudan so u dare to blame our beloved holy motherland, China for all the sins the West has committed?

1. That is a threat against my person.
2. You would not like to meet me at all, bandit, especially since you do not know what or who I really AM.
 
Read:
 
 
 

The International Criminal Court is on the verge of issuing an arrest warrant for Sudanese President Omar el-Bashir for crimes against humanity. According to my sources, at this very moment, China is preparing to introduce a United Nations resolution to suspend ICC jurisdiction over Sudan. The Chinese backed resolution proposes stripping the ICC of its power to investigate or prosecute Sudanese authorities for 12 months. Under Article 16 of the Rome statute the UN Security Council has that authority, renewable at six monthly intervals. If the UN Security Council invokes such a suspension they will be held accountable by the people of the world. I think the resolution will be vetoed, hopefully by the US, almost certainly by the UK and France who have been clear supporters of the ICC. It will be an interesting time to see the P5 (US, UK, France, Russia and China) forced to put their cards on the table. Who will they stand for? The perpetrators or the victims?

This move by Beijing further casts China in the role of Sudan's enabler and defender and secures their position in the Darfur genocide as the second most culpable nation in the world.
 
3. And you also would do well to reflect on how you personally betrayed the Chinese  people when you are one of the very ones responsible for them being enslaved.  
 
How dare you claim that you are true Chinese; bái mù.
 
H.
 

 
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Beazz       3/22/2010 11:53:01 PM

Hamilcar, I would like to meet you physically and I would have taught you some good manners. You do not know what a big mixed chinese african guy can do particularly to small white male. Strategypage should have blocked u for ur vulgar and insulting language. Regarding colonialism I would refer u to my previous post. The west have depleted the natural and human resources of Africa, it is responsible for slavery, for famine in Africa, for mass killings in Zaire and Burundi besides the West  have military bases in Africa and it has the military capacity to intervene in Sudan so u dare to blame our beloved holy motherland, China for all the sins the West has committed?

So do tell hero. What can a big bad mixed whatever you call yourself do to us poor little white boys?????? I'll go take a Valium now to help me sleep from all the fear of the big bad mixed chinese guy doing untold scary things to us lol
 
Beazz.
 
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kaltes    mariner is a pathetic tool   3/24/2010 10:21:40 PM
What kind of idiot actually tries to physically threaten someone over the internet, especially by claiming to be "big" and mixed chinese? Ooooh I'm so scared! Besides, China has not even been playing in Africa long, so I seriously doubt there are any significant number of mixed Chinese/native adults running around. Even if you were mixed chinese, you realize that the western stereotype of chinese is that they are small, with bad teeth and little dicks, right? Not exactly a fearsome image. And africa, with all its poverty and malnutrition, is not known for producing mighty giants of men, either. If I had to guess, I would say mariner is some scrawny little wannabe fen qing. I don't think he is african at all, especially given his antipathy for india and his worship of china.
 
Now moving on to the SUBSTANCE, mariner cries about hamilcar's "vulgar and insulting language" yet spews far more of it himself, first by viciously attacking India in his inept, rambling initial post, and then again by claiming to be some kind of black/chinese He-Man who would love to beat up hamilcar, who mariner somehow magically knows is a "small white male". What a little hypocrite.
 
 mariner is also a serial liar, he has obviously never set foot in india, let alone lived there for 10 years as he claims. this is just a typical internet case where some kid lies and lies, figuring that on the internet, no one knows you're a dog, except he doesn't realize that the content of his posts make it exceedingly obvious that all he is, is a chinese nationalist with a myopic, fanatical communist-dictated point of view.
 
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albywan       3/24/2010 10:53:50 PM

Besides, China has not even been playing in Africa long,



China were trading with the east coast of Africa long before the Europeans even rounded the Cape of Good Hope...
 
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cwDeici       3/26/2010 5:21:43 AM

Hamilcar, I would like to meet you physically and I would have taught you some good manners. You do not know what a big mixed chinese african guy can do particularly to small white male. Strategypage should have blocked u for ur vulgar and insulting language. Regarding colonialism I would refer u to my previous post. The west have depleted the natural and human resources of Africa, it is responsible for slavery, for famine in Africa, for mass killings in Zaire and Burundi besides the West  have military bases in Africa and it has the military capacity to intervene in Sudan so u dare to blame our beloved holy motherland, China for all the sins the West has committed?


Oh right, he's a jingoist who hangs out with Hajis... the picture becomes clear.
 
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cwDeici       3/26/2010 5:27:09 AM
Hmmm, all this good athmosphere makes we wish China would become majority Christian sooner. It's true it's the 'bandits' who look out for their country who wish to steal/take water from India, but if we follow the Lord more closely the world clearly treats us with kid gloves most of the time anyway and we can probably get a hold of that water somehow or other... even if Chinese claim that Tibet's claim on Aruachnal Pradesh being false is pretty strong (especially with the Brits weakening Indian claims recently).
 
Perhaps it is so, as it also says in the bible, that the Lord does not destroy China as he does not destroy a field for the weeds in it for the sake of the grain.
 
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