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Walking Away From Islam

September 2, 2008: Hamas has an image problem, and it's getting worse. It's gotten so bad that the 30 year old son (Mosab Yousef) of one of the Hamas founders (Hassan Yousef) has not only renounced Hamas, but has become a Christian. Mosab is fed up with the terrorism/"destroy Israel" approach the Arab world has embraced over the last sixty years. Mosad notes, as have many other Arabs, that this has not worked.

The conversion angle is something Moslems are trying to keep quiet. Mosab Yousef's father pleaded with his son to keep quiet about the conversion (which took place 18 months ago). The elder Yousef knows that this is not an isolated incident. Many young Moslems are abandoning Islam. Most do so quietly. In Iran, the clerics that run the country are shocked at secret police reports about a growing number of young Iranians who have, in effect, abandoned Islam. This sort of thing is happening all over the Moslem world, but especially in Arab countries. The people who switch to Islamic radicalism get all the headlines, not the larger numbers who just walk away from Islam are largely ignored. In the Palestinian territories, there is also a growth in the number of Sunni Moslems who are switching to the Shia version (as championed by Iran). But many other Moslems are openly distancing themselves from the conservative forms of Islam (like the well funded Saudi Wahhabism). One reason this trend is kept quiet is because Islamic militants are inclined to kill such traitors, if the switch is done too openly. Thus the elder Yousef's plea that his son keep quiet, lest he attract the murderous attention of Islamic radicals out to impose the death sentence on apostates.

Hamas was founded in 1987, as one of the Palestinian terrorist organizations that believed attacking Israeli civilians was the way to victory. Hamas also noted (based on what happened to most of the first generation Palestinian terrorist organizations of the 1960s) that they needed more than violence to survive. So they sought out Moslem charities for donations, and ran many humanitarian programs. Once they had a steady stream of charity money coming in, they could divert some of it to terrorist activities. None of this worked. Israel defeated Hamas terrorism efforts twice (early 1990s, then once more a decade later). When Hamas won the Palestinian elections in 2006, and refused to drop its demand for the destruction of Israel (as non-Moslem donors, who provided most of the charitable contributions that kept the Palestinian state going, insisted), money dried up and the Palestinian government split into Hamas in Gaza (with 1.4 million people) and Fatah in the West Bank (with 2.4 million people). The Palestinians have managed to compile an impressive string of failures in the last half century, and many Palestinians are beginning to question the leadership and strategy.

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jak267       9/2/2008 7:10:01 PM
There is no future in the Modern World for Islam in its present form. It needs to undergo both a Reformation and Secularization - so that it is merely symbolic as modern Christianity is.
 
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ker       9/3/2008 3:54:24 PM

There is no future in the Modern World for Islam in its present form. It needs to undergo both a Reformation and Secularization - so that it is merely symbolic as modern Christianity is.



I hope you mean "modern Christianity" as a minority of shoot of classical chrianity.  Classical being a less abused term than fundamentalist.
 
A large majority of self identified Christians do not experience their religion as "merely symbolic."  I don't think Mosab Yousef is writing his own death warrant in exchange for a "merely symbolic" faith.  "to live is Christ and to die is gain"
 
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Reading John Calvin in terrain.
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It is one thing to know the official accedemic theology of a religion.  It is another thing to know the folk religion of the people who don't have graduate degrees in religion.  These folk are trained and educated in less formal ways.  They are the majority of believers. 
 
The line between folk Islam and informal Christianity is not a simplistic topic.  The experience's of men and women may be very different.  The basic book for this is "The Next Christendom" if you want to get started looking at it. 
 
I have heard interesting things.
 
Covert Christin cells in Iran that look like what occurred in China.
Net works of immigrants from Arab countrys working to bring their former nations to Christ.
Satellite TV
 
Then think about as the women of Islam get to see the images of the consumerist choice driven society long before they are allowed to participate.  The birth rate goes down.  Ether because they aspire to the fewer children longer life lifestyle or because they begin to feel like slaves who are being held for involuntary breeding and rebel.  The prediction for Muslim birth rates may be high.  That is before the consideration of conversion.  Most Christians think of conversion as one person at a time defection from the former community.  They forget the Celtic example, from above Hadrian's wall, community remained intact and adopted Christin forms one practice at a time. 
 
Sounds about as crazy as Poland shaking off Soviet domination doesn't it. 
 
Mind that bus.
What bus?
Splat.
 
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Jeff_F_F       9/10/2008 3:03:05 PM
For example in the US only 40% of Christians believe in the existence of the Devil. Perhaps "symbolic" isn't the word for it, but it isn't fundamentalist either.
 
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