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French Nukes For Brazil

August 26, 2009: After over a year of negotiations, Brazil and France have nailed down an agreement that will give Brazil four French diesel-electric Scorpene submarines, and technology from France to enable the construction of, in effect, a fifth, nuclear powered, "Scorpene". This is described as a strategic defense alliance, which involves France helping build demand for French weapons in Brazil. In return, with French help, Brazil will complete development a nuclear power plant small enough to fit into something like the new, 4,700 ton French Barracuda nuclear attack subs. France considers the 100 meter long Barracuda an evolution of the 66.4 meter long Scorpene. At least this is how it was explained to the Brazilians. The 1,400 ton Scorpene subs cost $600 million each, while the new French Barracuda nuclear powered subs cost $1.6 billion each.

All five subs will be assembled in Brazil, using components imported from France. Some of the components will be manufactured in Brazil as well. France will also help Brazil install the Brazilian designed nuclear power plant in a new sub design. France also wants to develop another major export customer for its weapons, and is willing to go to extraordinary lengths to accomplish this. France is particularly eager to sell Brazil Rafale jet fighters. The submarines, 50 Cougar helicopters, technical assistance and technology transfer is believed to be costing Brazil over $10 billion.

Brazil says it is will to spend all this to improve its fleet, in large part because oil has been discovered off the coast of Brazil, and must be defended.

 

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RockyMTNClimber    Logical parnership   8/26/2009 8:21:24 PM
The submarine sales, if accurate, would be an interesting way of opening the door to other French arms sales. I think there is allot of potential in a small nuclear submarine based upon French or German Diesel Electric platforms, or even, Russian SSKs.
 
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Photon       8/27/2009 12:52:09 AM
Not to mention that, from an emerging power's point of view, someone like France would be a better supplier.  Chances are, I am not looking for extremely big-ticket items like US carriers, nuclear subs and cruisers.  Not only these US-made items are expensive as hell, but they are specifically built to meet US strategic requirements, not mine.  Also, someone like the French would be a better source of technological transfers, which is even more critical than the hardwares listed on the contract.  With these two considerations in mind, I would not necessarily buy from the US if given a choice.
 
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albywan       8/27/2009 6:52:10 PM
and the US wouldn't sell it's nuclear sub technology to Brazil...
 
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Herald12345       9/3/2009 12:27:49 PM

Not to mention that, from an emerging power's point of view, someone like France would be a better supplier.  Chances are, I am not looking for extremely big-ticket items like US carriers, nuclear subs and cruisers.  Not only these US-made items are expensive as hell, but they are specifically built to meet US strategic requirements, not mine.  Also, someone like the French would be a better source of technological transfers, which is even more critical than the hardwares listed on the contract.  With these two considerations in mind, I would not necessarily buy from the US if given a choice.

How is that working out for India? Brazil should have bought the updated Barbels or the S-80s offered.
 
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