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Stealth Radar

September 22, 2009: The U.S. Air Force is equipping a hundred of its F-15Cs with heat sensing pods, that used to equip navy F-14Ds (which were retired over the last few years). The refurbished navy IRST (InfraRed, Search and Track) pods enable the F-15s to detect and track aircraft, over a hundred kilometers away, from the heat the target aircraft give off. IRST is a passive (it does not broadcast) sensor, thus it is undetectable by the enemy.

IRST has its limitations. The main ones are range (usually about 30 kilometers for accurate detection) and problems with clouds and have distorting the heat signature of the target. The short range means that another aircraft using its radar (which has a range of over 100 kilometers for precise identification) has an obvious edge. The distortion problems are slowly being solved by improved computer analysis of the detect image. Since many warplanes like to operate "quiet" (without any electronic transmissions), IRST becomes the best way to spot the other guy, and open fire, first. IRST is also capable to spotting stealth aircraft, which are protected from radar transmissions, but still have jet engines throwing off lots of heat. The F-14D IRST was notable for its long range. But at more than 30 kilometers, the IRST gave pretty vague data. Still, it's believed that just having an indication that someone is out there, more than a hundred kilometers away, gives you an edge.

The U.S. Navy is also installing a new IRST in its F-18Es, which will be mounted in a modified centerline drop tank (which will contain the IRST as well as 68 percent of the usual fuel). One problem with this approach is that the F-18E can't jettison this drop tank, to make itself more maneuverable for air-to-air combat. Other aircraft, like the F-22 and F-35, have the IRST built into the fuselage.

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VelocityVector    Yo!   9/22/2009 5:28:20 PM

This capability is being added primarily for the purpose of deconflicting airspace crowded with stealth and unmanned friendlies.  It is a stop-gap measure.  Going toe to toe with an opposing interceptor or fighter equipped with IRST or similar passive technology is not what this initiative is intended to deal with.  As somebody in an unrelated thread re the SP claim 122 mm mortars are organic to every US battalion has suggested recently, editorial control would be much appreciated here. 0.02

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Chris       9/23/2009 9:24:37 AM

No one seems to mention how easy it can be to detect stealth aircraft using low-frequency radar.  Most radar systems are high-frequency, because then you can pinpoint the location of whatever you are tracking.  Low frequency radar has such a high bandwidth that it detects everything - hence a warning that there is something where it shouldn't be.  Then IRST might be useful in that you would have a general idea of what direction you should be looking.

 

 
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FJV    Depends   9/23/2009 3:04:14 PM
My hunch is that it depends what they use for radar absorbent material which determines the bandwith and frequency the material absorbs. That and a lot of other stuff they can do.
 
However my hunch on the radar front is, that you can do a lot with signals processing to increase your stealth detection chances. That and a lot of other stuff that can be done.

In my opinion the F22 is not nearly as invincable as everybody on this board make it seem. In my opinion the F22 must be combined with electronic warfare aircraft to cover exploitable weaknesses it's bound to have. Weaknesses which I suspect but cannot confirm, because a large amount of the really interesting information about the F22 is classified.
 
 
 
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