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Brazil Shows The Chinese How To Do It

June 17, 2009: Brazil has agreed to a deal where Chinese sailors will learn aircraft carrier operating skills on the Brazilian Navy's carrier, the "Sao Paulo." Nine years ago Brazil bought the 32,000 ton French aircraft carrier Foch (which was still in service) for $12 million, updated it and renamed it. The navy has not been able to get much cash out of the government to further refurbish the 46 year old Sao Polo, and apparently the Chinese deal will change that.

The "Sao Paolo" was headed for decommissioning, and has been used mainly to train carrier pilots for the last few years. The "Sao Paolo" entered service in 2000, and the Brazilians retired the " Minas Gerais", a World War II era (British) Colossus Class carrier a year later (after 40 years of service). So the Brazilians have a long tradition of carrier operations, and sufficient experienced carrier sailors to teach the Chinese some useful things. Brazil has long been the only South American nation to operate a carrier.

The Sao Polo has a crew of 1,900 and was designed to carry 35 warplanes (smaller, older models like the A-4) and four helicopters. This load can vary depending on aircraft type.

 

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cwDeici       6/18/2009 3:40:32 AM
Hmmm... I wonder if we're cocky enough to try for a tech-steal while we're at it?
 
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cwDeici       6/18/2009 3:41:25 AM
Oh well, there's probably a lot to learn, but little tech to steal.
 
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well-duh    accident at sea?   6/18/2009 1:02:49 PM
Who said that? The Brasilians are not our enemies yet. And the Chinese are not currently.
 
But an old ship...who knows what could happen? Might even be some eco-terrorists (burning the rain forest) or mercenaries thinking that. People with too much time on their hands obviously.
 
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well-duh    Scrap metal cost eh?   6/18/2009 1:04:24 PM
LOL $12 million -- how much per kilogram for scrap iron?
 
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well-duh    Upgrade vs Ops Budget   6/18/2009 1:07:38 PM
Hmmm...the US and allies usually scrap due to operations costs not upgrade costs. So I am guessing that the Brasilians cannot afford to leave the harbor often or go very far. Prolly just far enough out most times that fixed wing aircraft ops do not run into harbor traffic.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       6/18/2009 4:04:29 PM
The Chinese are our enemy and Brazil's president seems intent on going after the US at least politically and economically (at Davos he blamed all of the world's economic problems on "people with blonde hair and light skin" ).
 
If the Chinese just go to classes and watch, they won't learn much.  If Brazil lets a squadron of pilots operate off of the carrier and start actively training deck bosses, ordinance, maintenance and command crews while at sea, that is a different story and I wouldn't be surprised if China foots the bill for 3-6 month rotations.
 
While China applies for more UN/IDF/ADF funds because China is so "poor".
 
The US might need to start taking a sterner line with Brazil.  Maybe we should let Chavez start some trouble down there, Brazil's army is much larger but a bit behind on training.
 
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DarthAmerica       6/24/2009 12:30:23 AM

The Chinese are our enemy and Brazil's president seems intent on going after the US at least politically and economically (at Davos he blamed all of the world's economic problems on "people with blonde hair and light skin" ).

 
That's a false assertion. The USA and Chinese may have different governments and the occasional dispute but if you care to research history and the economic links we are definitely not enemies.

-DA 
 
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maruben    Brazilians   7/10/2009 4:29:27 PM
There are many many Brazilians who are people with blonde hair and light skin.
 
Please remember Tom Brady's "Victoria's Secret Angel".

Gisele Caroline Bündchen
 
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