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Japanese Aircraft Carriers Back In Business

March 20, 2009: Japan recently commissioned its first aircraft carrier since World War II. Sort of. The new, "helicopter-carrying destroyer", the Hyuga, is a 610 foot long, 18,000 ton warship that operates up to 11 (mostly SH-60) helicopters from a full length flight deck. Although called a destroyer, it very much looks like an aircraft carrier. While its primary function is anti-submarine warfare, the Hyuga will also give Japan its first real power projection capability since 1945. The Hyuga is the largest warship built in Japan since World War II. The Japanese constitution forbids it to have aircraft carriers, which is the main reason it is called a destroyer. That, and the desire to not make the neighbors anxious. East Asian nations still have bad memories about the last time Japan had lots of aircraft carriers.

The Hyuga also has 16 Mk41 VLS (Vertical Launch System) cells for anti-aircraft and anti-ship missiles. There are also two 20mm Phalanx anti-missile cannon and two triple 12.75-inch torpedo mounts. There is a crew of 350 and a top speed of about 60 kilometers. Vertical takeoff jets like the Harrier and F-35B could also operate from the Hyuga. A second Hyuga is under construction and a third is planned.

The last Japanese warship to be called the Hyuga was a World War II battleship that entered service in 1918, and was converted to a hybrid battleship/aircraft carrier in 1943. The new Hyuga will be used for peacekeeping missions as well, and for that role its many helicopters will be most useful.

 

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HERALD1357    Look at me! I is a DESTROYER!   3/20/2009 7:25:09 AM
 
Type: Helicopter carrier
Displacement: 13,500 tons standard;
18,000 tons full load
Length: 197 m
Beam: 33 m
Draft: 7 m
Propulsion: COGAG, two shafts, 100,000 hp
Speed: 30+ knots (56 km/h)
Complement: 347 (Hyuga)
371 (18DDH)
Sensors and
processing systems:
ATECS command system
FCS-3 fire control and air search radar
OPS-20 surface search radar
OQS-XX bow mounted sonar
Armament:
Aircraft carried: Up to 11. Usual air wing is 3xSH-60K, 1xMCH-101
Aviation facilities: Flight deck and enclosed hanger
 
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Hi! I'm an aircraft carrier-you know a ship that carries aircraft?  
 
About roughly the same size. Eleven heloes my left foot: if its big enough to handle a Chinook, its big enough to handle a Sparky.
 
Herald 

 
 
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Ezekiel    Any one interested   3/20/2009 10:27:37 AM
Is there any possible export of this ship.
 
Which nation could do with this sort of platform?
 
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eldnah       3/20/2009 1:05:37 PM
I'd expect a ski ramp if they planned to embark F-35s although an addition may have been prepared for to keep the option viable.
 
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Chris    Don't know about you...   3/20/2009 1:12:55 PM
But thats gotta be the funniest looking destroyer I've seen in a long time...
 
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JIMF       3/20/2009 2:46:58 PM
Can the Hiryu class be far behind.  
 
I believe the current trio (duo?) of British Carriers started out as Through Deck Command Cruisers.  Not quite the same level of obfuscation as calling a carrier a destroyer, and I believe the ruse was more for internal than international consumption.  
 
 
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Spiky    Mini me carrier   3/20/2009 5:39:24 PM
  Japan will need their mini carriers in the event of hostilities with China. Also, a stronger Japanese Navy will be a nice ally in the South Seas and Asian Pacific area where China has just recently shown their aggressive behavior with the example of the recent U.S. ship Impeccable incident. A stronger Japanse Navy will also be a buffer to U.S. territory such as Guam and other U.S. territories and interests.
 
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Slim Pickinz       3/20/2009 7:00:33 PM
Calling that thing a destroyer is like classifying the Yamato as a PT boat.
 
But most definitely a good addition to the region. With the PLAN expanding every year, major ASW assets like the Hyuga are sorely needed.
 
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jwilly48519       3/20/2009 8:39:28 PM
Is it already, or can it be, set up to launch and land long-loiter and heavy-payload UAVs?
 
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drodax    What does china have to say?   3/20/2009 9:45:19 PM
Wow! Hyuga built from scratch now in service, another under construction and another planned. And China cant even get their half built Soviet Aircraft carrier in service? It just shows how far behind they really are.
 
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sinoflex       3/21/2009 2:03:41 AM
The real indicator of Japan's intentions will be when they commit to purchasing some F-35Bs.  Once China embarks its carrier battle groups I imagine there will be an amendment to its constitution regarding the building of carriers. 
 
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gf0012-aust       3/21/2009 4:59:51 AM

Is it already, or can it be, set up to launch and land long-loiter and heavy-payload UAVs?

can be and has already been done. Mariner/Predator sized UAV's have been trialed from Subs - and thats much harder.

the japanese have a very nice little rotary called the Yamaha R-Max - lots of potential and robust.  They've been flying and testing rotary UAV's longer than most others have been talking about it. :)
 
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jwilly48519       3/21/2009 8:25:51 AM
Perhaps the Japanese should buy a few V22s as a way of getting needed equipment or supplies, or an SNLF company, to a trouble spot more quickly. Aircraft speed and range equates to more ship power projection radius. F35Bs would be hard to explain as "peaceful" to that element of the Japanese polity that demands such rationales. V22s plus SNLF forces (with medics!) would be much easier to justify and of course would provide an increased capability to maintain peace through timely force presense.
 
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gf0012-aust       3/21/2009 10:27:11 AM
V22s plus SNLF forces (with medics!) would be much easier to justify and of course would provide an increased capability to maintain peace through timely force presense.

There's almost a perverse historical link that could be invoked.... the Knights Hospitalier and Templars (although SNLF is hardly a contemp Templar outfit) :)
 
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SAE       3/22/2009 12:57:39 PM
This what use to be called an escort or helicopter carrier. Yes, the addition of F-35Bs would transform the role of these carriers. Remember, the Invincible class in the Falklands War.
In addition, this is another example of the shift in the balance of power away from Europe to Asia. How many of these things will the British or French going to have? Now, with the development of the UAV, these may become UAV carriers. UAV carriers could replace the Super Carrier that only the U.S. has. If that becomes the case, the U.S. Navy might find itself being in second place to the Japanese navy if they built enough of these.
 
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gf0012-aust       3/22/2009 3:26:49 PM

This what use to be called an escort or helicopter carrier. Yes, the addition of F-35Bs would transform the role of these carriers. Remember, the Invincible class in the Falklands War.

in the 60's there were actual "Hunter-Killer ASW Groups led by light carriers.  The USN used them to track the 5 nuke torpedo armed soviets during the cuban crisis..

The expeditionary task forces would be far better used if they were "dual hatting"   ie keep them as expeditionary capable, but make their primary role ASW.  It would also fast track the ASW skill and development that has been so sorely missing since everyone had their "kumbayah" moment in 1989.
 
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