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Air Defense: Iron Dome Shoots Down Palestinian Morale
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October 27, 2011: Palestinian terrorists are not happy. Last August, terrorist groups in Gaza thought they had come up with a way to get around the new Israeli Iron Dome anti-rocket system. They thought that all you had to do was fire at least seven rockets simultaneously at the same area being guarded by one Iron Dome battery. Islamic terrorists did this last August. One rocket got through, and killed an Israeli civilian. This “saturation” tactic is a problem with all air defense systems. But the saturation attacks turned out to be no more effective than firing many more rockets over an extended period. During two periods of intense rocket attacks last April and August, Islamic terrorists in Gaza fired over 300 rockets, most of them longer range ones aimed a large Israeli towns. For all this, they killed one Israeli. The Iron Dome system detected and shot down about 90 percent of the missiles that were headed for inhabited areas. That means only about a tenth of one percent of the Palestinian rockets were getting through to areas with people and buildings. Most of those rockets did not kill anyone,

Worse, Palestinians in northern Gaza could see Iron Dome in action, as those few rockets that were headed for an urban area, were knocked out of the sky by interceptor missiles. None of the Palestinian media will mention Iron Dome, but over the last two months Israeli intelligence has collected a lot of communications chatter in Gaza, and it indicates a demoralized population. Hamas had made much of how eventually the rockets being brought into Gaza by the thousands would bring Israel to its knees. Iron Dome in action has spoiled any enthusiasm for rockets destroying Israel. The rockets are now seen as a liability. The rockets can't hurt Israel much, and the Israelis shoot back, doing a lot more damage that the Palestinian rockets.

Israel has bought seven batteries of Iron Dome, to be delivered over the next two years. Two are in service, and a third will be ready by the end of the year. Each battery has radar and control equipment, and four missile launchers. Each battery costs about $37 million, which includes over fifty missiles.

During tests, Iron Dome detected and shot down BM-21 (122mm) and Kassam (crude models made inside Gaza) rockets. Iron Dome uses two radars to quickly calculate the trajectory of the incoming rocket and do nothing if the rocket trajectory indicates it is going to land in an uninhabited area. But if the computers predict a rocket coming down in an inhabited area, a $40,000 guided missile is fired to intercept the rocket.

This makes the system cost-effective. That's because Hezbollah fired 4,000 rockets in 2006, and Palestinian terrorists in Gaza have fired over six thousand Kassam rockets in the past eight years, and the Israelis know where each of them landed. Over 90 percent of these rockets landed in uninhabited areas, and the few that did hit inhabited areas cause few casualties. Still, a thousand interceptor missiles used against another major attack would cost $40 million. But that would save large quantities of military equipment and avoid many dead and injured troops and civilian. Israel already has a radar system in place that gives some warning of approaching rockets. Iron Dome currently uses that system, in addition to another, more specialized radar in southern Israel.

Over the last eight years, the Palestinians have had to fire about 250 rockets to kill one Israeli. With only two of seven Iron Dome batteries deployed, that has gone up to 300. With more Iron Dome batteries in action, it will take even more Palestinian rockets to do any damage.

Firing salvos of rockets at once is more difficult, and dangerous, than firing one or two at a time. The larger number of rockets takes longer to set up, and makes it easier for the Israelis to spot the preparations and fire a Hellfire missile. Moreover, the Iron Dome system control software can be tweaked to handle more simultaneous targets, and the fire control hardware can be upgraded as well. So the new terrorist tactic won’t remain successful for long.

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dogberry       10/27/2011 11:13:27 AM
Can't believe the Israelis aren't using Pearl Harbor rules.   Kill 12 civilians at Pearl, and we kill one million of yours.   Plus why no napalm?   Oh, can't even figure a civilian exchange rate for America vs. Germany since I don't think the Germans killed any American civilians.
 
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Reactive       10/27/2011 1:23:03 PM
Not heard of the Lusitania then?
 
More generally Iron dome is just one of several layers of defense that the IDF is building to maintain the safety of its people - one of which is the blockade of Gaza which will remain in place until the people there realise that they are fighting a war they can't win that has absolutely no positive impact on their own plight, the fact that there is dismay they can't kill civilians with impunity doesn't surprise me whatsoever, just another little snippet of the attitudes of Hamas supporters that the media generally ignores in favour of running its usual biased commentary on "Israeli aggression".
 
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Gerry       10/27/2011 9:22:58 PM

Can't believe the Israelis aren't using Pearl Harbor rules.   Kill 12 civilians at Pearl, and we kill one million of yours.   Plus why no napalm?   Oh, can't even figure a civilian exchange rate for America vs. Germany since I don't think the Germans killed any American civilians.
Seems the number of Japanese civilians who died during WWII was around 450,000, including the bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Chinese civilians deaths have been put at 20-40 million, as well as hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in the Philipines, Singapore, Burma, and India. Nice analogy Dogbert without much context.
Perhaps Germany would be a better example for you with 10's of millions of Russians who died at the hands of the NAZIs as well as 6 million jews and a million other people who were deamed misfits. Your logic stinks. 
 
By the way napalm works very well when you were  fighting for your life in Korea or Vietnam, however we have much better munitions now that war has become more clinical. (less civilians die).

 
 
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postal71       10/30/2011 3:22:52 PM
Interesting, throwing all that effort to no avail!   I guess when you have time on your hands you should waste it and the money to make or buy rocket material.   Stupid is as stupid does!   Nice to read this here, I am sure the regular media feels that it would not be important enough for the evening news.
 
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Frumious Falafel    "yours," the exact definition of   10/30/2011 8:54:59 PM
Perhaps the gentleman, Mr. dogberry meant to include both Japanese "civilians" and Japanese military when he made his remark regarding the 12:1,000,000 ratio. I put the word civilians in quotes for reasons I explain later.
 
I could make a "non-PC" argument supporting him as well.  By the time Americans & British too btw had captured Okinawa, taking a full 82 days, they were glumly preparing for the land invasion of Japan in which even low estimates had 1 million US Soldiers getting killed. According to Wikipedia there were roughly 100,000 Japanese soldiers and 100,000 (rough estimate) Japanese Civilians killed. So already we can see that for the largest island battle in the Pacific, where Japanese lived... their home, there was a rough 1:1 Japanese soldier-to-civilian loss ratio(!)
 
At this point (or earlier) the Emperor himself told each and every Japanese (both civilian and soldier) left in Japan that they'd all fight the "invaders" and whether that mean with a stick or a rock, every civilian was expected to join in. It should be said that there was no significant feeling among the civilians that this was "too much to ask" of them. No I didn't take a poll, but there more than enough evidence to back that up including the simple matter that the Emperor was thought to be a god. Whatever.
 
The point is simply that there was intense involvement (just as in Germany) of the civilian population in the war. Once the Allies gained air-superiority, as they had done over Germany, they began a highly (and "legal") decimating campaign of fire-bombings (think Dresden). A fact most people do not know is that the "standard" firebombing of a Japanese city ? due the "technique" having been well-honed by this time ? killed far more than either atomic bomb explosion.
 
Just like the introduction of the tank late in WWI, it seemed the fear of this "new technology" was what shocked and scared the belligerent into capitulation. And as I'm sure many of you know, Arthur C. Clarke (the famous Science Fiction writer and Scientist) who wrote the story upon which Kubrick's film "2001: A Space Odyssey" is based, wrote the following saying which I think adroit in this context (paraphrased!):
Any sufficiently advanced technology will appear as magic when first used (or demonstrated).
I am sure this also applied to the Atomic bomb. It made brilliant men so awestruck, that the likes of Robert Oppenheimer, the bombs leading creator, spouted nonsense like the quote, "I am become death, The Shatterer of Worlds." Alrighty then.
 
So my only point with respect to the original post is that the gentleman may have been (arguably rightly) including Japanese civilians along with their military as a single enemy combatant group (his "yours").
 
-- FF
 
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flyingarty    Naplam   11/1/2011 6:12:21 PM
This Israeli's have regard for human life and the rules of warfare. Something that escapes the Muslims....
 
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Gerry       11/1/2011 8:01:27 PM


Perhaps the gentleman, Mr. dogberry meant to include both Japanese "civilians" and Japanese military when he made his remark regarding the 12:1,000,000 ratio. I put the word civilians in quotes for reasons I explain later.

 

I could make a "non-PC" argument supporting him as well.  By the time Americans & British too btw had captured Okinawa, taking a full 82 days, they were glumly preparing for the land invasion of Japan in which even low estimates had 1 million US Soldiers getting killed. According to Wikipedia there were roughly 100,000 Japanese soldiers and 100,000 (rough estimate) Japanese Civilians killed. So already we can see that for the largest island battle in the Pacific, where Japanese lived... their home, there was a rough 1:1 Japanese soldier-to-civilian loss ratio(!)

 

At this point (or earlier) the Emperor himself told each and every Japanese (both civilian and soldier) left in Japan that they'd all fight the "invaders" and whether that mean with a stick or a rock, every civilian was expected to join in. It should be said that there was no significant feeling among the civilians that this was "too much to ask" of them. No I didn't take a poll, but there more than enough evidence to back that up including the simple matter that the Emperor was thought to be a god. Whatever.

 

The point is simply that there was intense involvement (just as in Germany) of the civilian population in the war. Once the Allies gained air-superiority, as they had done over Germany, they began a highly (and "legal") decimating campaign of fire-bombings (think Dresden). A fact most people do not know is that the "standard" firebombing of a Japanese city ? due the "technique" having been well-honed by this time ? killed far more than either atomic bomb explosion.

 

Just like the introduction of the tank late in WWI, it seemed the fear of this "new technology" was what shocked and scared the belligerent into capitulation. And as I'm sure many of you know, Arthur C. Clarke (the famous Science Fiction writer and Scientist) who wrote the story upon which Kubrick's film "2001: A Space Odyssey" is based, wrote the following saying which I think adroit in this context (paraphrased!):



Any sufficiently advanced technology will appear as magic when first used (or demonstrated).


I am sure this also applied to the Atomic bomb. It made brilliant men so awestruck, that the likes of Robert Oppenheimer, the bombs leading creator, spouted nonsense like the quote, "I am become death, The Shatterer of Worlds." Alrighty then.

 


So my only point with respect to the original post is that the gentleman may have been (arguably rightly) including Japanese civilians along with their military as a single enemy combatant group (his "yours").


 

-- FF

Nice try, however I doubt Dogberry had that in mind.:)

 
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