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Subject: ROKN Patrol Corvette sucken by DPRK torpedo boat
YelliChink    3/26/2010 12:10:07 PM
Just happened 2150 Korean local time. Chinese reports say that it was DPRK torpedo boat. The ROKN corvette sunk is probably a 1200t PCC. I can't read Korean so I am not sure which one exactly. At this moment, 59 out of 104 crew have been saved so far. Best wishes to the still missing ones and condolence to families of lost sailors.
 
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warpig       6/5/2010 5:45:52 PM
Well, I for one am very impressed by the strongly resolute measures taken by Pres. Lee and the South Koreans in the days and weeks since they officially determined that North Korea torpedoed and sank one of their warships, killing 46 South Korean sailors.  Very impressed indeed...
 
Bwahahahahaha!!!!  http://www.strategypage.com/CuteSoft_Client/CuteEditor/Images/emteeth.gif" alt="" />  I'm sorry, I just couldn't keep a straight face any longer.  I tried, but it was too much.
 
Pussies.
 
 
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Hamilcar       6/5/2010 7:51:08 PM

Well, I for one am very impressed by the strongly resolute measures taken by Pres. Lee and the South Koreans in the days and weeks since they officially determined that North Korea torpedoed and sank one of their warships, killing 46 South Korean sailors.  Very impressed indeed...

 

Bwahahahahaha!!!!  http://www.strategypage.com/CuteSoft_Client/CuteEditor/Images/emteeth.gif" alt="" align="absMiddle" border="0" />  I'm sorry, I just couldn't keep a straight face any longer.  I tried, but it was too much.

 

Pussies.

 

1. The PRC bandits offici8ally dis-invited Robert Gates, but feted KJI, WP.
2. BHO officially did and said nothing to support President Lee, even in the UN.
3. This crisis hasn't gone away despite what some might claim. Its collapsed the soi party talks.  Those are DEAD. 
It isn't the DPRK who've scored face here, its the PRC bandits. THIS will bite us in the ass among our allies
 
Comes a time when you cannot have a coward and a fool for a POTUS, either for an oil spill or when an ally asks for help to do somethung about an act of war.
 
Do we even see a resolution entered to condemn the pirates who authored this attack or a case brought before the World Court to adjudicate the war crime?
 
No. There is a reason I regard the fool sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue as a fool. He told President Lee, "No."
 
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CFG    Dont' seam to me a face saving ...   6/6/2010 2:46:02 AM

As the two Koreas were each saving face and heading for a conflict neither really wanted, few ships filled with Turkish peace folk sailed towards Gaza with known consequences.

Funny how this works. All you need to do is to come up with an even hotter global issue and that's it. No attention, no mandatory facesaving spiral, no crisis. 

Not that this is all there is to it, but damn what a convenient timing for the Koreas. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there's a conspiracy going on but seeing how this works, every self-respecting intelligence agency should have a small but highly media worthy crisis up their sleeve.

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Sometimes is funny, M http://www.strategypage.com/CuteSoft_Client/CuteEditor/Images/emsmile.gif" alt="" align="absmiddle" border="0" />
Often some hotter issue appear.
Things are complicated on both regions. A brake-blockade-flotilla act is important, with implications. IMO there is no causing / connection between brake-blockade-flotilla act and Korea. Did you notice the media in this case?
 
 
I notice also that on some sites, were analyst/professors  post articles, there was more then two weeks of silence - some people were busy I guess. It's a good thing to do the measurements, calculations, comparisons ...
 
 
Also, like a dance:
- carrier on area / no carrier in area but exercise will take place, some exercise.
- US will reduce presence in Okinawa / no so fast anymore - and Japan PM, in good Japanese fashion, resign.
- a complain will be sent to the UNSC / there will be a delay for that / the complain sent to UNSC.
- new air forces arrive to area: F-22, B-52, F-16 ...
 
 
... interesting times. Hopefully peace will hold ... but, IMHO, for both regions, force/war option should be on the table.
Maybe, after all, China will step in to the 3rd millennium (A.D.) and renounce at buffer zone or weak-on-purpose neighbor in Korea peninsula.
 
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Hamilcar, I'm afraid opinion of one person, even POTUS, is to little. Situations in both regions are too complicate for one. I don't think that at that level things go like that - I don't see how it can go like that ...
 
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Hamilcar       6/6/2010 8:59:45 AM
Hamilcar, I'm afraid opinion of one person, even POTUS, is to little. Situations in both regions are too complicate for one. I don't think that at that level things go like that - I don't see how it can go like that ...
 
Look at how things changed with Israel and Great Britain and the US in one year. BHO is the grandson of a Mau Mau terrorist and a close personal friend to another terrorist murderer. We KNOW this from the Chicago Tribune Prejudices he learned matters. He surrounds himself in his regime with despicable and incompetent people who should be chased by the Justice Department and Defense and condemned by the State Department, not running those organizations.
 
H.
 
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DarthAmerica    @Warpig   6/14/2010 11:02:22 PM

Well, I for one am very impressed by the strongly resolute measures taken by Pres. Lee and the South Koreans in the days and weeks since they officially determined that North Korea torpedoed and sank one of their warships, killing 46 South Korean sailors.  Very impressed indeed...

 

Bwahahahahaha!!!!  http://www.strategypage.com/Images/emteeth.gif" alt="" />  I'm sorry, I just couldn't keep a straight face any longer.  I tried, but it was too much.

 

Pussies.

 

Were you expecting anything different? And how is it "Pussy" to not start a war you can't win? It was immediately obvious that this event could not and would not escalate. It's back to prosperity and new military spending for S Korean and back to the drawing board for the Norks. This event turned out "draw".

-DA 
 
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Hamilcar    Foolish statement.    6/15/2010 6:55:43 AM




Well, I for one am very impressed by the strongly resolute measures taken by Pres. Lee and the South Koreans in the days and weeks since they officially determined that North Korea torpedoed and sank one of their warships, killing 46 South Korean sailors.  Very impressed indeed...



 



Bwahahahahaha!!!!  http://www.strategypage.com/Images/emteeth.gif" alt="" align="absMiddle" border="0" />  I'm sorry, I just couldn't keep a straight face any longer.  I tried, but it was too much.



 



Pussies.



 




Were you expecting anything different? And how is it "Pussy" to not start a war you can't win? It was immediately obvious that this event could not and would not escalate. It's back to prosperity and new military spending for S Korean and back to the drawing board for the Norks. This event turned out "draw".




-DA 


Its obvious that you need thiis and this.
 
Like your hero, you need to learn the concepts.
 
 
 
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DarthAmerica    @Hamilcar   6/15/2010 11:49:51 AM
You need to learn how to articulate a point. The facts are, I told you nothing would come of this, and nothing did. That was obvious to those of us with experience doing this absent of any political factors. But froth on as much as you like.

-DA 
 
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Hamilcar       6/15/2010 1:33:44 PM

You need to learn how to articulate a point. The facts are, I told you nothing would come of this, and nothing did. That was obvious to those of us with experience doing this absent of any political factors. But froth on as much as you like.




-DA 

Your  "facts" are your  wrong opinion. You've never learned the difference about that. US prestige fell in the PACRIM. Those are the actual facts.  Proof? Russia will sell new S-300s to Iran at last and the sanctions they agreed to support are a joke There will be no IN sanctions against the DPRK since the PRCs continue to support their stooge. The two primary enemies of the United States have just told us to go to hell-------again.   
 
Even when it is in their intererest not to do so.
 
LOSS OF FACE matters to Asians.
 
H.
 
 

 
 
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warpig       6/21/2010 1:47:15 PM




Well, I for one am very impressed by the strongly resolute measures taken by Pres. Lee and the South Koreans in the days and weeks since they officially determined that North Korea torpedoed and sank one of their warships, killing 46 South Korean sailors.  Very impressed indeed...



 



Bwahahahahaha!!!!  http://www.strategypage.com/Images/emteeth.gif" align="absMiddle" border="0" />  I'm sorry, I just couldn't keep a straight face any longer.  I tried, but it was too much.



 



Pussies.



 




Were you expecting anything different? And how is it "Pussy" to not start a war you can't win? It was immediately obvious that this event could not and would not escalate. It's back to prosperity and new military spending for S Korean and back to the drawing board for the Norks. This event turned out "draw".




-DA 



 
No, I was not expecting anything different--and that's why I've said as much several times.  Were you expecting that I was expecting anything different?  If so, why?  You are *CLEARLY* not the only one around here who can figure out what is actually going to happen, vice what ought to happen.
 
By the way, here is more evidence of just what lame pussies the South Korean government are:
 

Inter-Korean trade suspension called most punishing response Seoul could make to ship sinking
East-Asia-Intel.com, June 16, 2010

 

SEOULSouth Korea's ban on trade with North Korea following its torpedo attack is expected to cost the impoverished communist state about $280 million annually, a state-run think tank here said.

Vice Unification Minister Um Jong-Sik said the ban on inter-Korean trade is the most punishing unilateral action the South could take against the impoverished North. Um said the North's damage expands to $300 million if it includes losses caused by Seoul's ban on all North Korean shipping from the South sealanes.

 

"We believe the measures can inflict significant damage," he said. "North Korea should not get through the incident without paying a price," he said. South Korea has also referred the case to the United Nations Security Council for international punishment on North Korea for its torpedo attack that killed 46 sailors.

 

But the South has decided to maintain the inter-Korean joint industrial complex in the North's border town of Kaesong. Seoul officials said they would determine the fate of its industrial park depending on the North's attitude on the sinking incident.

 

More than 120 South Korean manufacturing firms are currently operating in the Kaesong complex, hiring some 42,000 North Korean employees. A possible closure of the complex would cause huge financial damage to the cash-strapped North.

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warpig       7/17/2010 3:17:50 PM
Since I normally pay exactly zero attention to anything UN-related, I missed the actual release of this statement, but I read that supposedly the UN (Security Council?  General Assembly?  Some sort of Committee?  I don't know) did issue a condemnation of the sinking of the South Korean frigate, but in it they ***DID NOT MENTION NORTH KOREAA BY NAME!*** 
 
Priceless!!!  
 
As with everything else in life, the John Birch Society is also correct in their plea for America to: 
"Get the US out of the UN, and the UN out of the US!" 
 
 
 
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