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Subject: Invade Vietnam?
Softwar    9/10/2008 11:08:48 AM
The Vietnamise government has complained through diplomatic channels to the PRC that there are "invasion" plans being posted on some web sites inside China. The PRC government is blaming this on "hyper" nationists but has so far not removed or blocked the web pages.
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tigertony       9/10/2008 12:41:50 PM

Having fun at Vietnam's expense

Some curious things get by the internet censors in China, and sometimes that raises a lot of questions.

Take for example the curious situation of internet users who are openly discussing China?s supposed plans to ?occupy? Vietnam.

This has rattled Hanoi. According to an article today in the South China Morning Post, an English-language daily in Hong Kong, Hanoi has summoned Chinese diplomats twice in the past month to seek explanations.

China, after all, is said to employ 35,000 people to sanitize internet content, not to mention the throngs of ?guides? in the ?50 cent? brigades who offer support of party policy on any number of themes on internet bulletin boards.

The Morning Post (which is behind a pay wall) said the ?occupation plans? appear to be unofficial. Yet censors do not seem to be leaping for the ?delete? button. Curious.

The supposed plans detail a 31-day invasion, starting with five days of missile strikes from land, sea and air and climaxing in an invasion involving 310,000 troops sweeping into Vietnam from Yunnan , Guangxi and the South China Sea. The electronic jamming of Vietnamese command and communications centres is mentioned, along with the blocking of sea lanes in the South China Sea.

"Vietnam ... is a major threat to the safety of Chinese territories, and the biggest obstacle to the peaceful emergence of China," the plans posted on and at least three other websites say.

"Also, Vietnam is the strategic hub of the whole of Southeast Asia. Vietnam has to be conquered first if Southeast Asia is to be under [China's] control again.

"From all perspectives, Vietnam is a piece of bone hard to be swallowed."

In a statement to the South China Morning Post, Vietnamese Foreign Ministry spokesman Le Dung confirmed Beijing officials had been asked "to act so that such negative articles will not appear again since these may be harmful to ... bilateral relations".

"This is irrelevant information which goes against the trend of peace, friendship and co-operation for development in the region and the world and is not in the interests of the fine relationship existing between Vietnam and China," Mr Dung said.

Vietnam and China do not have the easiest of relationships even though they are both one-party states and share a 1,400-kilometer border. The two sides had a brief but bloody war in 1979. But they differ over maritime territory, specifically over the Spratly Islands in the South China Sea.

Earlier this year, Hanoi permitted a series of student protests outside the Chinese Embassy. Now, China is permitting its own nationalists to have some fun at Vietnam?s expense.

Could get outta hand.


Chinese Invasion of Vietnam
February 1979

China's relations with Vietnam began to deteriorate seriously in the mid-1970s. After Vietnam joined the Soviet-dominated Council for Mutual Economic Cooperation (Comecon) and signed the Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation with the Soviet Union in 1978, China branded Vietnam the "Cuba of the East" and called the treaty a military alliance. Incidents along the Sino-Vietnamese border increased in frequency and violence. In December 1978 Vietnam invaded Cambodia, quickly ousted the pro-Beijing Pol Pot regime, and overran the country.

China's twenty-nine-day incursion into Vietnam in February 1979 was a response to what China considered to be a collection of provocative actions and policies on Hanoi's part. These included Vietnamese intimacy with the Soviet Union, mistreatment of ethnic Chinese living in Vietnam, hegemonistic "imperial dreams" in Southeast Asia, and spurning of Beijing's attempt to repatriate Chinese residents of Vietnam to China.

In February 1979 China attacked along virtually the entire Sino-Vietnamese border in a brief, limited campaign that involved ground forces only. The Chinese attack came at dawn on the morning of 17 February 1979, and employed infantry, armor, and artillery. Air power was not employed then or at any time during the war. Within a day, the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) had advanced some eight kilometers into Vietnam along a broad front. It then slowed and nearly stalled because of heavy Vietnamese resistance

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Softwar    Tiger In Your Tank!   9/10/2008 1:28:50 PM
Keep in mind the latest threats made by Beijing against ExxonMobil to not do an off shore oil search with Vietnam in contested South China sea waters.  China and Vietnam have been waging a campaign over the Spratleys for quite some time and this may be tied in to that campaign of intimidation.
In addition, China and Vietnam are battling over the upcoming leadership changes in Laos - each pushing its own communist candidates for the leadership roles.
Overall - I would watch my back if I were Hanoi.
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