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Subject: The rise of the Greens, be very scared
Aussiegunneragain    10/18/2008 8:54:45 PM
The Greens tripled their vote in the ACT election last night. I'd put it entirely down to the number of chardonney socialists with more care than responsibility residing here, except that federal election result had the nutters on the rise nationally as well. Even people like my Mum, normally a Liberal voter, are voting for the Greens because she thinks that "those types of people" (i.e. completely idealistic and unreasonable) are important for bringing issues to the fore. Personally I see a place for idealists in lobby groups, but I don't want them having any actual power. Is anybody else wishing that the Australian Democrats had never self destructed and created a vacuam that the Greens have filled? I like the prospect of having a third party with whom I can lodge a protest vote and who can influence the direction of the government, but I'm terrified by the prospect that party being the Greens.
 
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Volkodav       10/22/2008 6:04:59 AM

Be afriad AG, be very afraid!! hahaha

 

Democrats began to die the day they allowed Howard to introduce the GST.

 

Id rather the greens hold the bal. of power in the Senate rather than Mr. Non-Family First...





The GST support came from a small majority of the senators led byMeg "I'm a school teacher so I know" Lees, not from the party as a whole.
As for the Greens I believe they let ideology blind them to many real solutions to the very environmental issues they hold so dear.
 
Family First??????????? now there is a political movement that really scares me.  God fearing US style politics anyone?
 
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Aussiegunneragain    FO   10/22/2008 6:27:36 AM

Be afriad AG, be very afraid!! hahaha

 Democrats began to die the day they allowed Howard to introduce the GST.

 Id rather the greens hold the bal. of power in the Senate rather than Mr. Non-Family First...

You have more to be afraid of than me if the Greens get any real power federally mate. Ya see, I'm already an insider in the public service, with a nice protected job thanks to your  left-wing unionist buddies. You however have yet to get out of uni and are planning on travelling for a couple of years, so if the worst happens you might well get back just in time for this economy to get a mighty green inspired rooting.
 
Fancy flipping burgers after all those years of study boyo? hahaha.
 
PS, I'm interested to hear from you and Volkodav how the world has come crashing down as a result of the GST. After all the hysteria before the introduction what we got was 8 years further strong growth and record low unemployment, before recent international events put a damper on that. It was a non friggin issue.

 
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Aussiegunneragain    Volkodav   10/22/2008 6:34:08 AM



The GST support came from a small majority of the senators led byMeg "I'm a school teacher so I know" Lees, not from the party as a whole.

As for the Greens I believe they let ideology blind them to many real solutions to the very environmental issues they hold so dear.

 Family First??????????? now there is a political movement that really scares me.  God fearing US style politics anyone?


The funny thing about Family First is I agree with 90% of their policy positions, but the other 10% is so repugnant that I can't support them.
Personally I kinda like the current situation in the Senate though. Neither the Greens, Xenophon nor Fielding have the BOP and since they are unlikely to all agree on anything that is remotely controvertial, it makes it virtually impossible for the ALP to do anything that the Coalition won't agree to.
 
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hairy man       10/22/2008 5:32:40 PM
it makes it virtually impossible for the ALP to do anything that the Coalition won't agree to.
Dont forget, Australia elected the ALP to govern.  The current scenario does not support that.
 
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Aussiegunneragain    HM   10/24/2008 5:12:28 AM

it makes it virtually impossible for the ALP to do anything that the Coalition won't agree to.

Dont forget, Australia elected the ALP to govern.  The current scenario does not support that.



Pfft, that's rich. After 11 1/2 years of ALP obstuctionism in the Senate, which followed the previous 13 years of having a pretty co-operative Coalition opposition I don't think that that view is going to get too much sympathy from the Opposition benches.
 
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