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Subject: Forces must be up-to-date, says PM
Enterpriser    9/9/2008 10:17:20 AM
By Adam Gartrell September 09, 2008 10:09pm Article from: AAPFont size: + - Send this article: Print Email AUSTRALIA'S armed forced must be better equipped to deal with new security threats associated with Asia's booming economies and expanding militaries, says Prime Minister Kevin Rudd. Addressing the RSL National Congress tonight, Mr Rudd said Asia could be home to the largest and most dynamic economies in the world by 2020, posing new strategic risks for Australia. "In short, we have a rapidly changing region, but one still characterised by a number of unresolved flashpoints arising from unsettled territorial disputes," Mr Rudd said. "As nations grow and become more affluent, they also update their military forces. "We need to be aware of the changes taking place. "And we must make sure that we have the right mix of capabilities to deal with any contingencies that might arise in the future." The modernisation of Asia's military forces was characterised by significant improvements in air combat and naval capabilities, Mr Rudd said. Australia had to be at the forefront of military technology development and acquisition, he said. "Our armed forces must be equipped to deal with the emerging security environment," he said. "We need a first rate and flexible land force - one capable of taking on challenges from contributing to high-end military engagements through to delivering post-conflict reconstruction support. "We need an enhanced naval capability that can protect our sea lanes of communication and support our land forces as they deploy. "And we need an air force that can fill support and combat roles and can deter, defeat and provide assistance to land and maritime forces." The government will soon release Australia's first National Security Statement, which will set out how the country will approach national security challenges in the coming decades. A Defence White Paper is also due later this year. During his speech, Mr Rudd announced Australian Electoral Commissioner Ian Campbell had been appointed secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs. Tried showing this to Dad......thought it might have been a good sign. Dad laughed at me and said that it was violently at varience with the fiscal picture and the textbook definition of cognitive dissonance. Brett.
 
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Kevin Pork       9/13/2008 1:08:03 AM


Defence acquisitions and planning are slightly longer than one year so you would expect at least some announcements around the white paper being released...what it is, who knows.

Wow, that is grabbing at straws! these are the guys who had 12 years to plan for Govt, said they had plans during the election, and came in on a $20 billion surplus - you don't think they could have managed "it is our intention to procure a new pair of bootlaces, to be shared between 1 Bde, in the next 3 years, pending succesful negotiations with the local $2 shop" within, say, 100 days of taking office?
I know the above is an exageration for effect, but the only thing the Rudd govt has actually anounced an intention to act on is education, and the fact is they don't control it, its a state matter - the rest is expensive and useless websites (why oh why didn't I follow up on my html!).
 
Remember - 12 years to plan, they said they had a plan and they scored a record surplus. they have troops in combat, surely there would be a sense of urgency there, they have the money to deliver and they could easily ask the army "what do you need in Afghanistan?" and just buy it, citing "operational neccesity to protect diggers lives" and nobody would quibble.
 
 
 
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StevoJH       9/13/2008 2:03:34 AM





Defence acquisitions and planning are slightly longer than one year so you would expect at least some announcements around the white paper being released...what it is, who knows.




Wow, that is grabbing at straws! these are the guys who had 12 years to plan for Govt, said they had plans during the election, and came in on a $20 billion surplus - you don't think they could have managed "it is our intention to procure a new pair of bootlaces, to be shared between 1 Bde, in the next 3 years, pending succesful negotiations with the local $2 shop" within, say, 100 days of taking office?


I know the above is an exageration for effect, but the only thing the Rudd govt has actually anounced an intention to act on is education, and the fact is they don't control it, its a state matter - the rest is expensive and useless websites (why oh why didn't I follow up on my html!).

 

Remember - 12 years to plan, they said they had a plan and they scored a record surplus. they have troops in combat, surely there would be a sense of urgency there, they have the money to deliver and they could easily ask the army "what do you need in Afghanistan?" and just buy it, citing "operational neccesity to protect diggers lives" and nobody would quibble.

 

 

Three of the things on the list would almost have to be more bushmasters, more MRH-90's and the setting up of a second base for basic training in addition to kapooka wouldn't it?
 
I was under the Impression that there were a lot of takers when the Gap year thing was introduced, but one of the problems as that there were not enough places at kapooka and people had to wait 6 month or more to enter (and in that time decided to do something else).

 
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cwDeici       9/13/2008 2:52:27 AM
Australian's becoming more warlike would not only make them less annoying vis a vis their judgmental behavior towards their Christian friends, but it'd also be wise.
However, Australia appears to be having fundamental problem with its agricultural sector.
 
Rule a wasteland or lose an oasis?
No.
Atrocious as it'd be to not increase defense spending (and possible even media efforts to make Australians less self-satisfied and Pharisee-like act of pointing out America's manifold splinters in her eyes (as compared to the log in Australia's)) Australia needs to solve its economic problems first and learn its hope in the world in the next few centuries is not with the Asian dictators and one-party states who're currently buying up Australian minerals in the bucketload, but with the Knights Templars of the West. Those few of us who are left.
Then when they have the money they can ride piggyback on whatever super-advanced project the Amies feel up to when high-grade UAV fighter planes, the new space race (for Mars) and nano-technology comes swirling around.
 
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gf0012-aust       9/13/2008 3:18:22 AM
that was pretty impressive.  sprouting rubbish and being inarticulate about the subject matter in one fell swoop.
 
if you want to present as being a politico-military intellectual you could at least make some effort to be coherent first.
 
 

 
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Volkodav       9/13/2008 6:34:55 AM
when progs get killed due to execs protecting their KPI's rather than on program merit - then a number of capabilities pay the price due to self preservation.
 
I have seen that sort of thing happen a lot in private enterprise with too many choosing to do the wrong thing to ease their progression onwards and upwards.  It only makes sense that it is happening in the APS as well.
 
I suppose the other thing you are encountering is time bombs left by the "can do" types who really couldn't do but had the knack for hiding things until they were in the clear?  i.e. poorly performing programs that look to be tracking well until someone with stronger morals and a bit of back bone takes over, tells the truth and often has to cop the flack.
 
As you are probably aware, I have a broad overview of a very small, very specific part of the picture, so I am often unaware of the big picture (much to my disappointment), so I greatly appreciate the input of those better informed than myself.  At the moment my corner of the world hasn't seen much change but I will observe with interest what does eventuate.
 
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