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Subject: powered armour: will it happen?
andyf    8/26/2004 1:41:54 PM
With the development of the powered leg exoskeleton and recent fielding of effective personal armour is a suit of armour feasable>? If the arms and legs were protected to the same or slightly greater standard than the current interceptor vest torso , the torso area reinforced some more < say an extra boron carbide plate> and a nice beefy helmet with a face guard- would it be of any help in battle? as long as the weight and size of the kit was kept to a reasonable level- not trying to make a 1 man tank- it would prove as hard to hit a man with a RPG as it is now
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Ehran    RE:powered armour: will it happen?   8/26/2004 10:27:18 PM
the armour itself shouldn't present all that much trouble if the powers that be get serious about it. the killer part of it is the power source to make it run.
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blacksmith    RE:powered armour: will it happen?   8/26/2004 10:57:31 PM
Footprint and transport would be problems too. Too heavy and it bogs down. Stairs collapse while trying to run up them in rickety old buildings. Blackhawk helicopter comes down and one guy jumps out 'cuz that's all it can carry. There are ways to protect troops without wrapping them in armor and throwing them in harm's way. Bomb squads have definitely figured it out.
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andyf    RE:powered armour: will it happen?   9/8/2004 1:19:48 PM
perhaps a small gas turbine engine, lots of horse power there,, plus maybe jumpjet capability. use a tomahawk style motor, weight savings,, hmm, use that gubbins they put all over the apache, boron wasnt it? nice low atomic number should be light
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blacksmith    RE:powered armour: will it happen?   9/8/2004 7:49:15 PM
They may have powered armor some day. But it won't have a person inside. If armor becomes that necessary, people will hide in tanks and other heavy armored vehicles. The suit will be controlled from there.
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andyf    RE:powered armour: will it happen?   9/14/2004 1:29:02 PM
the remote soldier concept is practical I think,, if the range to the control vehicle is kept short there should be no problem with jamming
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eon    RE:powered armour: will it happen?   9/16/2004 9:57:24 AM
Wellington said, "The battle of Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton". The battles of the next war (after we finish this one) may be being won right now on X-Boxes and Playstations all over the place.........
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Ehran    RE:powered armour: will it happen?   9/16/2004 12:02:36 PM
autonomous killing machines powered by microsoft. if that doesn't send a cold shiver down your spine.
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big79    RE:powered armour: will it happen?   3/19/2005 8:33:01 PM
as for the original post about full body armour I really do see this as a possibility, not for every soldier but maybe as a unit trained just for urban combat turning corners and in homes the extra protection could save lives. and as for broken bones and internal bleading they are injuries that a human can survive from, and better than lost limbs. as for the remote soldier I always thought of them like remote control cars or helicopters that could fit in a home and climb stairs, and were controled from the inside of and IFV that could patrol the streets and apon reaching a problem while on the move could drop 4-6 mini vehicles with the capabilities of an infantry soldier(ie high mobility,~200 rounds of ammo,anti personel,anti tank,ect.)and could be either fully electrical or run on nitro fuel like remote control cars. I have seen film of remote control trucks, with a paintball marker mounted on them for paintball scenerio games. so take that and add high speed remote data capability, computer, camera, thermal/nightvision camera. a total package about 2ft^3. the other adventage of this type vehicle is that it could be designed to destruct apon abandonment so if your position is overwelmed you drive away and when you lose contact with the ifv the miniFV would self destroy all electronics and weaponry leaving no weapons for the enemy. they already are designing a remote placeable machingun for the infantry units. This would be similar but with mobile capabilities. I sort of think that this is the direction that the airforce and navy is going.
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blacksmith    The case for Armored Infantry   3/29/2005 10:38:35 PM
The case for heavy armored infantry was in the streets and building of Iraq. While little 'bots may help a lot, there is still that need for the up close and personal. The guys running into houses need armor, lots of it. It will be heavy. If a power suit can be created that is not too bulky, then it will let these little in-house tanks much faster. Weakness is power. There is no good large capacity storage device that isn't going to invlolve batteries or liquid fuel (how much of that do you want to run into a fire fight with?) So they may be limited to 1/2 an hour or an hour of independent time before they have to scoot back to the APC to recharge/refuel. It wouldn't even be necessary to enter the APC. The APC could have external recharging/refueling points. The grunt plugs into the port and trots alongside for a while. When he's needed, he breaks away, goes and breaks some people, and then returns to replenish again. Technically feasible? I believe so. Practical? Don't know. Operationally effective? [shrug]
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GLaw    RE:The case for Armored Infantry   4/14/2005 5:04:10 PM
I think that by the time this is technically feasible, little killer robots will make them unneeded.
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