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Subject: Israel forces land air could wipeout Us or European
kuznet    4/6/2004 6:04:51 PM
according to some articles I have read, not counting nukes nor naval assets> Israel could wipeout all of air and land assets of Germany, Uk and France combined. They could according to the articles wipeout half the usaf and us army/marines in a conventional war. Now this article made me laugh, don't recall where I read it but it was last year. Is said the IDF is well trained, experienced and in their f-15L thunder's the IDF pilots have no match not even an F-15 top gun USAF pilot,,.IDF hand's down. Now whether I agree with this is not known, but I agree that there would be serious losses. The assessment was made on a neutral ground scenario where supllies and ditances were not an issue!
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kuznet    RE:Israel forces land air could wipeout Us or European   4/6/2004 6:06:17 PM
my bad on the spelling sorry folks ^_* hooked on phonics sounds good right now lol..
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Otto    RE:Israel forces land air could wipeout Us or European   4/25/2004 5:54:11 PM
Posting that on the 'Science Fiction' board was a good choice.
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Horsesoldier    RE:Israel forces land air could wipeout Us or European   4/25/2004 7:06:59 PM
Israel has never gone head to head with a professional military force. The worst team in the NFL would tend to do pretty good when playing in the Lick Skillet, Arkansas, junior varsity high school league.
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eon    RE:Israel forces land air could wipeout Us or European   4/26/2004 11:01:30 AM
Agreed, HS. From my (I like to think reasonably well-informed) civilian POV, the Arab/Islamic armies in the MidEast are all (A) trained ane equipped on old-time Soviet lines and doctrines, and (B) don't even do those well. For the record, I wasn't very surprised by the pounding U.S. and UK forces gave the Iraqis in 1991 or 2003, because I'd once gamed Saddam VS. IDF, and concluded that IDF would hammer the Iraqi Army (as per 1989) flat in about two weeks (i.e., about as long as they needed to neutralize the first-line Syrian elements in Lebanon in 1982). And I also concluded (based on the same TO&E) that in the (very) unlikely event of a U.S./IDF confrontation, the IDF would lose in about the same length of time, albeit with significant casualties for U.S. forces mainly due to the initial battle for air dominance in-theatre. Given the level of manpower, expertise, and technology available to all concerned, I would have to consider Israel vs. the Bundeswehr & Friends (Luftwaffe, etc.) as having great potential for Mutual Assured Destruction even without anyone on either side escalating to the nuclear option. But a "win" for Israel would be very improbable..
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