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Subject: Would you rather a Bradley or AT-ST???
TriggaFingaz    3/14/2004 5:29:23 AM
Which would any of you prefer for a scout vehicle- an M3A-2 Bradley or an AT-ST 'chicken walker' from Return of the Jedi??? I'd stay clear from the AT-ST. It's height betrays it to observers, so does the noise of its legs which are louder than tracks. Also, it gets unbalanced too easily!!! Stick with the M3A-2, I love the M242 25mm to blaster cannons.
 
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Horsesoldier    RE:Would you rather a Bradley or AT-ST???   3/14/2004 11:08:03 AM
Star Wars tends to suffer from a style over substance approach to science-fiction -- the walkers being way up there on such issues. I'd stick with the M3 (-A3 version preferred though), and technologically progress up to the AFVs in Hammers Slammers rather than Star Wars walkers.
 
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TriggaFingaz    How about.....   3/15/2004 3:43:01 PM
Just for hypothetical.... prefer an M1A-2 Abrams platoon of 4 or a bunch of those tracked vehicles seen in The Terminator???
 
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mike_golf    RE:How about.....   3/15/2004 3:49:36 PM
We don't really have any way to evaluate the tracked vehicles seen in The Terminator. However. given the incredible technological progress and capabilities demonstrated by the Terminators I think it's safe to say that the tracked vehicles we catch a few glimpses of are far superior to any current generation MBT, including the M1A2 in terms of firepower, protection and mobility. Additionally, since they don't have to carry a human crew they will be able to be more efficient in use of space for armor, gun, ammo, fuel, etc. The real question is, without SkyNet just how effective is the "brain" in the vehicle going to be?
 
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SpudmanWP    RE:How about.....   3/19/2004 3:39:13 PM
Also consider the range of weapons in SW.. Sucked.
 
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Sherwood    RE:How about.....   3/20/2004 2:17:15 PM
Since the Terminators were totally independent of SkyNet, i.e. able to function perfectly well even before SkyNet went online, I think we can assume the same of the other autonomous units. Regards
 
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eon    RE:How about.....   3/29/2004 2:26:35 PM
The hardware seen in movies like "Terminator" and the Star Wars series are mainly intended to look impressive and scary. Note that most such things are taller than the recommended operational HAG of a helcopter gunship. Skylining yourself like that is invariably fatal on a real battlefield. The same holds true for "BattleMechs" or any anime'-style "Giant Robo"- if the enemy can see you, he can probably kill you. My preference would be for a troop of the "Panzers" in David Drake's "Hammer's Slammers" stories- but I think I'd prefer railguns to the "powerguns". Even if they worked as Drake hypothesizes (and I'm not sure they wouldn't) they seem to be a bit shy in the armor-penetration department. Of course, most SF weaponry seems to have that problem- otherwise, how could unarmored heroes like Skywalker & Co. survive to do their derring-do?.
 
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leoatwork    RE:How about.....   4/9/2004 2:21:01 PM
When it comes to Star Wars (and similar) weapons vs. real contemporary tech, I suspend my disbelief by assuming that there are reasons for the obvious weaknesses of the Sci-Fi stuff. So, for instance, I just assume that all of the Stars Wars stuff is armored or Force-Fielded or whatever against conventional (not directed energy) weapons. So while the blasters on Star Wars stuff may seem ineffectual, you can assume that a 30mm or HEAT wouldn't do a damn thing. And since their sensors seem to be able to detect life forms, etc. from extreme distances, maybe stealth is sacrificed for speed and mobility.
 
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Ehran    RE:How about.....   4/12/2004 7:39:26 PM
hmm does suspension of disbelief cover the two logs squishing it like it was tinfoil? gotta figure if its that tough a guy with a gimpy or an rpg would do it a wonder of good hehe.
 
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leoatwork    RE:How about.....   4/13/2004 7:03:14 AM
hmm... good point. I'm beginning to suspect that Star Wars is just movie...? Is that possible!?
 
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Ehran    RE:How about.....   4/15/2004 3:23:33 PM
if that's true my friend phil is in for a hell of a jolt to his world view.
 
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