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Subject: Most Powerful Military of All Time in Terms of Global Percentage
Aeb4ever    1/13/2006 1:20:45 AM
What was the most powerful military of all time in terms of global share of military power? For example, the USA is currently ranked at having about 53% of total naval power. I am referring in terms of all branches vs the world. My votes would be either the Mongols at height, Romans at height, English at height, USA after WWII, or USA after Cold War. Can’t make a guess at each countries percentage though. Fell free to add your own list or make a guess at the percentages of mine.
 
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kane    RE:Turkish Empires   1/15/2006 11:08:31 AM
Huns-Seljuks-Ottomans all of them were powerfull but Ottomans ruled for 6 centuries and affected world more no one can say ottomans sux everybody knows they were powerfull looking in history books should be enough to see this.
 
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Norvicension    RE:Turkish Empires   1/15/2006 6:51:51 PM
"all of them were powerfull but Ottomans ruled for 6 centuries and affected world more no one can say ottomans sux everybody knows they were powerfull looking in history books should be enough to see this." Yes the Ottomons were powerful, but they were just one of the great powers of their time, not the most powerful military in terms of global percentage, to quote the title of this thread. At the height of their power in the 16th century they were defeated both by the Holy League at Lepanto and by the Austrians at Vienna, the two defeats marking the limits of their expansion by sea and land respectively. Not to diminish the many Turkish achievements but they were never really more than a regional superpower at a time when Spain and Portugal were conquering huge swathes of America
 
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Jimme    All things being equal...   1/16/2006 12:44:55 AM
I would say the Current U.S. military. The only nation in history who has the resources and ability to pick a winable fight anywere in the world with a reasonably short preparation time. However i dont think its fair to count all things equal due to the serious technological advances of our time. So for making the most of there time period i would say the Mongols and /or Romans.
 
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The Lizard King    RE:Historical objectivity - Fallout   1/16/2006 9:50:20 AM
"The simple FACT is that Russia was the biggest factor in determining the outcome in Europe in WW2" The Russian performed well in the Pacific theather as well.
 
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PeregrinePike    RE:The US was a much smaller place when we cut our losses   1/16/2006 10:06:20 AM
gf0012-aust: Just for the fun of it, may I ask what territory in India did the British win directly in conflict? Anglo-French Wars: Siraj-ud-Daula replaced by Mir Jafar Anglo-Mysore Wars: Tippu Sultan replaced by Wodeyar Dynasty. Anglo-Maratha Wars: None of the 4 major clan heads - Peshwas, Bhonsles, Holkars, Schindias - werent even replaced. Anglo-Gurkha Wars: Nepal remained independent. Pindari Wars: Nothing happened, actually some bandit leaders were made into princes like Amir Khan. Sikh Wars: All of the important lords remained - Nabh, Patiala, Jammu and Kashmir, Gujranwala. Let us see how they did win the lands they did: Bengal: After nearly half a dozen ineffectual puppets, the Mughal Emperor gave the mansabdari to EIC Board of Control. South India: Nawab of Arcot died without a son, Nizam of Hyderabad couldnt collect taxes so he hired EIC thugs to do it for him - outsourcing the tax collection. Bihar: Nawab of Oudh died without a son. Bombay: Peshwa died without a son. Various little kingdoms in Central India: Doctrine of Lapse - no son, the kingdom passed to Mughals, and then down to Brits. Then there is Delhi -- the one true conquest of a single city. The Mughal was deposed and Delhi annexed as punishment for Sepoy Mutiny. As you can see no kingdom bigger than a city was ever taken militarily, but rather politically. Thus its logical that Indian Independence should come politically, and only little territories like Goa, Daman and Diu were taken militarily ;-)
 
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The Lizard King    RE:Empire Building - mond   1/16/2006 10:23:57 AM
"What makes you think that peoples that are technologically less developed are not just as proud, fearsome and determined as the empire builders. Gurkha War?? Sikh Wars?? Zulu War?? These ‘undeveloped peoples’ were among the most skilful, ferocious and courageous peoples that have ever lived." Wow your so smart mond. No Warriors protected by ox hide shields and carrying war clubs and spears, could possibly stand up to Tommy Atkins and a .45 caliber Martini-Henry rifle.
 
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The Lizard King    RE:Empire Building - mond   1/16/2006 10:26:45 AM
"Have you heard of the War of the Spanish Succession 1701 –1714 (Duke of Marlborough). Seven Years War 1756-1763 (The single most important reason why Americans and Canadians speak English not French). Napoleonic Wars 1792-1815 (You have heard of Wellington?) Crimean War 1854-1855" Not my point. These were great military victories, not doubt. What I said was Britain did not invade and hold lands of advanced Nations.
 
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paul1970    RE:Empire Building - mond   1/16/2006 11:01:33 AM
Not my point. These were great military victories, not doubt. What I said was Britain did not invade and hold lands of advanced Nations. erm.... does not taking and holding land formally controlled by Spain, France, Holland ect count? and as for not holding land in mainland Europe... they chose not to stay and hold the land of those they defeated. probably because it was not worth it and would cause more problems in the long run than giving it over to somebody else to look after.
 
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paul1970    RE:Spirit of 76 -- gf   1/16/2006 11:04:08 AM
---I'd say they didnt lose to a single military loss. But a series of events the most significant in my opinion being the American Revolution which was a military defeat. ahhh those pesky French! :-)
 
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The Lizard King    RE:Most Powerful Military of All Time in Terms of Global Percentage - Paul   1/16/2006 11:23:17 AM
Not to take anything away from the British, but to have the "Most Powerful Military of All Time in Terms of Global Percentage" was a lot easier in a time when most of the World was undeveloped and lacking in technology.
 
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