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Subject: What is the best way for the US to secure her borders?
JohnBarry    9/20/2004 12:52:59 PM
What is the best way for the US to secure her borders? What kind of force would it take to make US borders reasonably secure? How much manpower? Would you have a massive increase in the Border Patrol or create new military units for the role? How would you equip and organize the force. Would it be a standard light infantry, airmobile, mechanized, even old horse cavalry?
 
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AThousandYoung       6/30/2010 5:47:39 PM



What is the best way for the US to secure her borders?



What kind of force would it take to make US borders reasonably secure? How much manpower? Would you have a massive increase in the Border Patrol or create new military units for the role? How would you equip and organize the force. Would it be a standard light infantry, airmobile, mechanized, even old horse cavalry?






 

A double fence and ten times as many field agents in the Border Patrol from the Pacific to the Gulf is the only acceptable start to addressing this national security problem.  Who invaded "Tejas" first is irrelevant today.  Today the bottom line is what country is it part of last:  This isn't 1836 nor 1536, and that land is American, not Mexican, period.

 


And there you go.  A clear statement.  It doesn't matter whether the property was rightfully acquired if we can put enough fortifications and gunmen in position to control it.  That's how you see things.
They're outbreeding white Americans on THIS side of the fence too! Just look at the CA's boycott of AZ and you will see that the migrants ARE Americans with political influence, and their relative political power will only increase with time.
 
Fences will not solve the problem.  Just think of them as America's version of the IRA.  Tom Clancy understands (see Marvin Russel in A Sum of All Fears).  The CIA knows what's up.
 
It will require genocide or a shifting of the borders to stop the migrations.  The question is - do we want them to migrate openly and happily, or will they migrate illegally, hating Americans even as they BECOME America?
 
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Hamilcar    A thousand young fools....   6/30/2010 8:23:19 PM
I already classified you as ignorant of real history. Don't compound your error by appealing to my heart over supposed young who are going to die in a "race war". And don't claim that the modern Mexican is like the Native American, avictom of white man's oppression. He, the modern Mexican was more criminal in his dealings and Native American land theft than this American government was and is.
 
Now do me a favor and take your confused and ignorant mind to a library and do two  things.
 
1. Read State of Arizona and California crime statistics.
 
 
And then when you have something sensible to write worth reading, you La Raza fellow traveller, then you will have the tools to at least understand what I write, and why I account your now newly informed, with facts, and wrong opinion as still totally worthless.
 
Right now like the final frontier, the fact bin content you have on Mexico and the US is empty and devoid of true meaning.
 
I really don't have use for propagandized bleeding heart racist liberals like you.
     
Get something between the ears besides a California education, why don't you?
 
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warpig       6/30/2010 10:16:30 PM

And there you go.  A clear statement.  It doesn't matter whether the property was rightfully acquired [snip]

 
Correct.  Even (assuming arguendo) if anyone was wronged in the first place, all such theoretically possible victims died a century and more ago.  There are no living victims of any such supposed wrongdoing.  Therefore, there is no way to provide remedy to said victims, such as reparations or whatever other form of redress you have in mind.
 
Again, this isn't 1836 nor 1536.  That land is American, not Mexican, regardless of how it came to be that way.  The fact that hispanic terrorist groups exist and that one ethinic group has a higher growth rate than another doesn't change anything about whether we should control our borders, and not even how we should do it--except to the extent that those groups become domestic enemies and part of the problem of controlling the border.
 
 
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