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Subject: Debate
Heenanc    1/25/2009 8:12:48 PM
I think for this forum to survive people need to realize that other cultures and opinons need respect, I've being reading now for about 2 years and at one point it was a real eye opener for me and I spent many day just looking for info and people views on subjects. But now with people like 'Herold' it's turned into a quagmire and no resonable debate is found. I'm British and I understand that Britain is not top dog but other people on the board need to realize the world changes. Rather than be stuck in your ways why not treat peoples view with respect and if you don't agree reply in a calm and adult way rather than posting offending comments. I think it will be an advantage for everyone.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       1/27/2009 10:58:48 PM
There's nothing wrong with a little venting, especially towards bible thumping right wing nut jobs who don't see things
my way.
 
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Bluewings12       1/28/2009 7:28:01 PM
I decided to post again for a good reason ad this reason is not teach Strategypage how to behave .
It would be a hopeless move .
The reason I post again is to try to hit the nail , once more .
This "Debate" thread is born because a prick is tainting your forums with its venom , its lack of respect and its egocentrism .
Unfortunatly , he 's not the only one to behave this way and he 's not the only one to get the favors
of strategypage . This place stinks .
So , why I keep posting here ? I don 't . I just check the bullsh*t thermometer from time to time .
 
GoG :
""The loss of the French was a major blow to this forum""
While you exagerate , what you say is true . France is still easily in the top 5 about technologies and military matters and you don 't have anymore insights . Blame SP and its pseudo "champions" posters .
 
Now , about Herald . Look at his style on this thread (where he is the main concern) :
He first said :
""Now why don't you attempt to defend yourself; if you can.""
 
Sorry to say , but the original poster actually attacked Herald , it is Herald who should/must defend .
First use of the semantic and in a very bad way if I have to say . Then he goes utterly mad at DA for no reason with this BS :
""Why are you, a person who's opinion I neither solicited nor asked, nor respect, trying to meddle where you don';t belong? ""
This is pure venom .
Who does Herald think he is to say that DA 's presence is not solicited or asked or even UN-respected ???
""I detest pretenders""
This is certainly not a reason to respond by insults as he does .
""If you can't handle the truth, that is not my fault. That is your character fault.""
What truth ? His ??? I say that HIS character is faulty .
""Is that clear, list three-er?""
This is simply egocentrism at its best . The prick is holding a list of people he doesn 't like and rate them as he sees fit .
Lovely behavior ... To me Herald is on no list , or the list has only one name on it ...
""I know the difference between right and wrong and correct and incorrect.""
Wow !? We have Jesus-Christ online ! The prick even knows what we think behind and beyond our own words !
""You showed no civility there; and here you stuck your arrogant pompous morally unqualified nose into MY business.
 Is THAT clear?""
Same shamefull egocentrism . It 's getting tiring ...
""I don't take instructions from hypocrites, the morally unqualified, and the ethically unjustified.""
Of course , the prick is seeing himself qualified to rate the moral and the ethic of the other posters .
It 's getting worse and worse by the post ... 
Should I keep quoting him or everybody gets the point ?
Now , ask yourselves a question : why strategypage did not ban that prick when he has been insulting every poster under the sky who disagreed with him ?
 
Cheers .
 

 
 

 
 
 
 
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Nichevo       1/28/2009 8:14:50 PM
Ah oui, Bluewings mon vieux...
 
""The loss of the French was a major blow to this forum""
While you exagerate , what you say is true . France is still easily in the top 5 about technologies and military matters and you don 't have anymore insights . Blame SP and its pseudo "champions" posters .
 
Again the ant climbs up the cow's leg assuring her that he will be gentle...
 
 But SRSLY, BW, the loss is not based upon the level of French technology.  Your value on SP is chiefly in the fact that you take different approaches to problem-solving.  In other words, you provide "diversity."  Even if your answers are wrong, suboptimal, or based upon different requirements, your participation provides a variety of solutions and makes us question our assumptions - a feat which, sad to say, you and FS have apparently never, never tried. 
 
If you were in a creative role it would be easier for you to understand this.  It is in fact easier to learn from failed experiments than from successful experiments - this is a paradox of science which you should study.
 
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Godofgamblers    Challenge !   1/28/2009 9:07:30 PM
  Gentlemen, may I suggest something?
 
Instead of wasting another dozen or so posts on personal attacks, why don't we settle matters the SP way?
 
A challenge!
 
BW and FS (i'm sure BW can contact FS to come back for one last thread) vs. Herald.
 
It's up to the French to choose the topic and let the rest of the community to decide the winner of the debate.
 
Surely more productive than name-calling and accusations....
 
What do you say?
 
 
 
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Nichevo    A modest proposal   1/28/2009 9:13:31 PM
GoG, may I suggest myself in place of Herald, not because I am better informed - quite the reverse; we can beat them with our second or third string, i.e., me - but because I can avoid the inevitable vituperation, or at least make it clear that it didn't start here. 
 
(other helpful well-informed Americans, etc., free to chime in on either side as always)
 
I would suggest a topic, but I forget who, under the code duello, has the choice of weapons.
 
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Godofgamblers    En garde !   1/28/2009 9:28:22 PM
In any case, Nich, the gauntlet has been thrown down.
 
Let us wait for the French to sally forth and give their answer.
 
The return, if only brief, of FS to the forum would be a great delight for everyone, I'm sure.
 
 
 
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Godofgamblers    BW   1/28/2009 9:33:38 PM
But there will have to be a referee! No resorting to low blows!
 
You will have to mind your French, BW. Calling Herald 'prick' only 'gives water to his mill', if you know what i mean.
 
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Nichevo       1/28/2009 9:46:12 PM
It's all good, G, you know I'm just in it for the lulz.
 
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Godofgamblers       1/28/2009 11:02:47 PM

It's all good, G, you know I'm just in it for the lulz.

The lulz? Educate me...
 
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Nichevo       1/29/2009 1:11:23 AM



It's all good, G, you know I'm just in it for the lulz.



The lulz? Educate me...


 
or just google 4chan:
 
encyclopediadramatica.com/4chan 
 
 
or even this Encyclopedia Dramatica is pretty scary:
 
 
 

will all tell you more than you wanted to know
 
I don't understand it myself very well, but it repels and fascinates like an H. P. Lovecraft villain.
 
 see (or don't) also:
 
goatse (not on a non-expendable computer)
2 Girls 1 Cup (haven't; won't)
 
 
 
now i need a bath.
 
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