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Subject: Why all the hostilities towards China?
analdestroyer    1/19/2009 12:29:29 AM
I sometimes wonder why all the hostilities towards china in this forum?, i even read that someone suggested the US to send B2 to wreck chinese three gorges dam? where all of this come from, is it from jealousy?, certaintly not as you americans has been living so well off, is it because dare i say 'fear' as the chinese are rapidly catching up on you, certainly this is exagerrating, no matter how fast the chinese are growing its still decades away to be on the same footing as the US, or is it because they are different? different in their way of doing things that you guys are so worked up, different yet produces the same or arguably better results, for example china is not democracy so it must be evil, yes china is not democracy nor it needed to be at the moment, but its heading that way, for democracy to work first the state must achieve stability and to achieve stability means continuing economic growth, after all democray is where the people become more affluent and so they demand more say on how goverments run things, remember democray does not make western countries rich, they become rich because of colonization (mercantilism) and industrialization (which is what the chinese are doing), secondly your mantra of free market capitalism over state controlled economy, you seems to think that the state is naturally idiot and the market is naturally brilliant, guess again it was an epic mistake, it is you who now moving toward state control—by nationalizing the banking and car industries, and imposing heavy new regulation on the financial industry, accusing them of yuan depreciation while ignoring the fact that is has been increasing by 21.5% towards the dollars, the chinese are a nation of learners they learn from others success and mistakes, they want to avoid the fate of russia in 90's moving too fast from socialism economy to free market and democracy, you americans called it shock therapy which proves to be all shock and no therapy, and you might be suprised that 8 out of 9 of its top leaderships is engineers instead of attorneys and lawyers like in the US you should read this article on newsweek http://www.newsweek.com/id/178810/page/1 its quite rare US media potrays China in positive light
 
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HERALD1357    ave the lies,Wow that was some agression you showed, you remind me of my pitbull terrier, i thought this is a forum which you can have a civilised dis   1/19/2009 2:35:34 PM
 
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Nichevo       1/19/2009 2:38:35 PM




Its advocates are people with names like "analdestroyer" who cannot, among other things, use the Return or Enter key, like



 



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 Well sorry for not using enough enter key, its a habit im working to change, the name analdestroyer means exactly what is written, thats what i do  

 




Well,
 
 
have
 
to
 
admit
 
you 
 
are
 
educable
 
in this regard, thank you.  It makes much easier reading of your words.  Now whether I want to is another story ;>
 
 
 
What can you possibly mean "that is what you do?"  You sound like a mistranslation of a Chinese menu:
 
 
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You destroy anuses?  You destroy anally?  You are a gay rapist?  A porn star?  We're absolutely lost here.

 
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warpig       1/19/2009 4:31:45 PM
I probably despise commies as much as anyone here, but maybe you guys should fight fair.  It could be that a couple of you can speak and even read Chinese, like maybe gf0012, but c'mon--most of usa wouldn't have a clue.  The guy probably thought he was calling himself an "ass kicker" or something tough-sounding like that.
 
 
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WarNerd       1/19/2009 7:04:35 PM

 Well sorry for not using enough enter key, its a habit im working to change, the name analdestroyer means exactly what is written, thats what i do  

you're a proctologist?

I  think he means he is a gay porn star.
 
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analdestroyer       1/19/2009 7:17:45 PM










Its advocates are people with names like "analdestroyer" who cannot, among other things, use the Return or Enter key, like







 







this















to make paragraphs.




















 







so it is much harder to read what they write.


















 Well sorry for not using enough enter key, its a habit im working to change, the name analdestroyer means exactly what is written, thats what i do  



 











Well,

 


 

have


 

to

 

admit


 

you 

 

are


 

educable

 

in this regard, thank you.  It makes much easier reading of your words.  Now whether I want to is another story ;>


 

 

 


What can you possibly mean "that is what you do?"  You sound like a mistranslation of a Chinese menu:


 


 

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You destroy anuses?  You destroy anally?  You are a gay rapist?  A porn star?  We're absolutely lost here.


Well maybe i am, but isn't that you are a country that respect all type of human?, so why it should be a problem if i am gay, can't speak english well, or a porn star, or you have a doubt about your own sexual preferences?,  the main point is my topic that i posted and so far i haven't received any civilised answer or intelligent one, which proves my point that most of you suffer from superiority complex,


 
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analdestroyer       1/19/2009 7:19:59 PM



 Well sorry for not using enough enter key, its a habit im working to change, the name analdestroyer means exactly what is written, thats what i do  



 

you're a proctologist?

You hit the spot there cowboy, hehe, dont underestimate this profession, it pays well you know










 
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analdestroyer       1/19/2009 7:41:29 PM









Its advocates are people with names like "analdestroyer" who cannot, among other things, use the Return or Enter key, like







 







this















to make paragraphs.



















 







so it is much harder to read what they write.


















 Well sorry for not using enough enter key, its a habit im working to change, the name analdestroyer means exactly what is written, thats what i do  



 













Dude - first get a new handle.


Second, if you want to know why many of us oppose China - do some basic research about the Laogai camps and why the CCP continues to use a concentration camp system.

 

Finally, your assumption that China "will become democratic" one day has yet to come true even after 2000 years.  The engagement crowd has stated over and over again that continued trade will make China become more democratic and less hostile.  Neither have taken place despite nearly 20 years of the same policy out of DC.

 



 


Well they gonna take as much time as they want, this is their own country only them knows what works and what doesn't whatever their system is, is suitable to china, and they are not gonna bow to outside pressure to democratize overnight, their leaders is engineeers which is highly process-oriented and obsessed with performance metrics trained to build from a plan
I can't think of a better situation than to have engineers running the government as opposed to attorneys. It is the same as having scientists rather than idealists running the country. I am convinced that the chief flaw of the US last executive administration was its idealism and the destruction it wrought to foreign policy, budget , trade deficit and the economy.
 
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HERALD1357    That is what I mean about a liar, liar..   1/19/2009 9:48:14 PM
Engineers?
 
Hu Jintao, the butcher of Tibet is an engineer? Oh yeah he worked on irrigation systems while he was a young communist punk in Gansu province. He soon found a patron and went beyond that.drudge work. *In the `1980s he went to the Central Party School to become a CCP party hack. Over here we would call him after such training a !@#$%^&*() :LAWYER or more correctly a mandarin functionary.Ip the traditoopnl tiocket punching route with the Communist Youth l;eague .Made political c0nnedctions with Song Ping and aligned himself into the personal circle of the national economic criminal, Deng Xao Peng.
 
Hu became the party functionary in charge of Tibet after the previous party provincial secretary died of "high altitude sickness" (he was probably ":removed".to get him out of the way because of the mess he stirred  up that resulted in a province wode outbreak of rioting.).
 
What was Hu's furst act?

How about the extremely convenient DEATH of the Panchan Lama?
 
And then there was the martial law order, mass arrests and state sanctioned murders which immediately followed.that convenient death.
 
There's more, you PRC. Civilized? You are hardly in any position to use the term or complain about it; BANDIT.
 
Herald
 
 
 
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HERALD1357    That is what I mean about a liar, liar..   1/19/2009 9:53:08 PM
Typos:
Engineers?

 

Hu Jintao, the butcher of Tibet is an engineer? Oh yeah he worked on irrigation systems while he was a young communist punk in Gansu province. He soon found a patron and went beyond that.drudge work. *In the `1980s he went to the Central Party School to become a CCP party hack. Over here we would call him after such training a !@#$%^&*() :LAWYER or more correctly a mandarin functionary, He took the traditoonl ticket punching route with the Communist Youth l;eague .Made political cnnections with Song Ping and aligned himself into the personal circle of the national economic criminal, Deng Xao Peng.

Hu became the party functionary in charge of Tibet after the previous party provincial secretary died of "high altitude sickness" (he, that previous bandit, was probably ":removed".to get him out of the way because of the mess he stirred  up in Tibet, that resulted in a province wide outbreak of rioting.).

What was Hu's first act?

How about the extremely convenient DEATH of the Panchan Lama?

And then there was the martial law order hwe enforced with , mass arrests and state sanctioned murders which immediately followed.that convenient "death".

There's more, you PRC. Civilized? You are hardly in any position to use the term or complain about it; BANDIT.

Herald


 
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Nichevo       1/20/2009 12:11:03 AM




You destroy anuses?  You destroy anally?  You are a gay rapist?  A porn star?  We're absolutely lost here.


Well maybe i am, but isn't that you are a country that respect all type of human?, so why it should be a problem if i am gay, can't speak english well, or a porn star, or you have a doubt about your own sexual preferences?,  the main point is my topic that i posted and so far i haven't received any civilised answer or intelligent one, which proves my point that most of you suffer from superiority complex,
 
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C'mon buttpirate, we're just doing it for the lulz.  It's pure funny.  You can be gay, we don't mind.  However, though we might not discriminate against you for problems with English skills, their lack does make you harder to understand.  In the long run, you will earn that at least some of these remarks are meant to be helpful.
 
 
Really, I don't want to reread what you wrote, it hurts my eyes.  Retype it, using paragraphs - do you understand the rules of paragraphs?  Basically every time you change your flow of thought; typically three to five sentences per paragraph, though this can vary greatly.  So retype it like I said, then I will answer you.   OK?
 
 
 
 
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