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Subject: Why all the hostilities towards China?
analdestroyer    1/19/2009 12:29:29 AM
I sometimes wonder why all the hostilities towards china in this forum?, i even read that someone suggested the US to send B2 to wreck chinese three gorges dam? where all of this come from, is it from jealousy?, certaintly not as you americans has been living so well off, is it because dare i say 'fear' as the chinese are rapidly catching up on you, certainly this is exagerrating, no matter how fast the chinese are growing its still decades away to be on the same footing as the US, or is it because they are different? different in their way of doing things that you guys are so worked up, different yet produces the same or arguably better results, for example china is not democracy so it must be evil, yes china is not democracy nor it needed to be at the moment, but its heading that way, for democracy to work first the state must achieve stability and to achieve stability means continuing economic growth, after all democray is where the people become more affluent and so they demand more say on how goverments run things, remember democray does not make western countries rich, they become rich because of colonization (mercantilism) and industrialization (which is what the chinese are doing), secondly your mantra of free market capitalism over state controlled economy, you seems to think that the state is naturally idiot and the market is naturally brilliant, guess again it was an epic mistake, it is you who now moving toward state control—by nationalizing the banking and car industries, and imposing heavy new regulation on the financial industry, accusing them of yuan depreciation while ignoring the fact that is has been increasing by 21.5% towards the dollars, the chinese are a nation of learners they learn from others success and mistakes, they want to avoid the fate of russia in 90's moving too fast from socialism economy to free market and democracy, you americans called it shock therapy which proves to be all shock and no therapy, and you might be suprised that 8 out of 9 of its top leaderships is engineers instead of attorneys and lawyers like in the US you should read this article on newsweek http://www.newsweek.com/id/178810/page/1 its quite rare US media potrays China in positive light
 
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Parmenion    Humanity rocks dude   2/20/2009 8:10:44 AM
Prejudice against the Chinese people is like prejudice against your right arm. I would argue that you cannot be Human without ALL of Humanity.
I agree.

 
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Parmenion    RE: 1%   2/20/2009 8:24:30 AM
Though I think one could make a pretty strong argument that Hell's Angels don't do as much damage to humanity as the leadership of the PRC. In the 1950s, sure, they were evil incarnate but nowadays it's just abunch of old men drinking  beer on the weekends and telling little kids to use helmets. In the UK we have this show called the Hairy Bikers where two former Hells angels from Newcastle travel the country cooking. It's pretty entertaining. Also personally I'm not sure if even the worst of American politicans compare to the PRC leadership throughout history. Also, China's a big country, so law of averages means there are probably a fair few low-level PRC people who are just decent guys who wanted to get a bridge built or misguidedly believe the state propoganda. I think that's important because it's precisely those people who will have to rebuild and run the country when and if it becomes a democracy.
 
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Beazz       2/20/2009 6:49:28 PM

Though I think one could make a pretty strong argument that Hell's Angels don't do as much damage to humanity as the leadership of the PRC. In the 1950s, sure, they were evil incarnate but nowadays it's just abunch of old men drinking  beer on the weekends and telling little kids to use helmets.
Don't confuse old me who ride Harleys ( that would be me) with Hells Angels who ride Harleys. Hells Angels, Mongels, etc. are alive and well and if anything, a more violent bunch of thugs then ever before. Just not as much in the news is all.

 
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Beazz       2/20/2009 6:50:54 PM




Though I think one could make a pretty strong argument that Hell's Angels don't do as much damage to humanity as the leadership of the PRC. In the 1950s, sure, they were evil incarnate but nowadays it's just abunch of old men drinking  beer on the weekends and telling little kids to use helmets.


Don't confuse old me who ride Harleys ( that would be me) with Hells Angels who ride Harleys. Hells Angels, Mongels, etc. are alive and well and if anything, a more violent bunch of thugs then ever before. Just not as much in the news is all.
old Men*  who ride Harleys.




 
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analdestroyer       2/22/2009 9:42:20 PM

Have to agree with you Nich. Generally you know my point of view is to let everyone have their say, but for AD to claim the cultural revolutino was a milestone in chinese culture is so ignorant, it's tantamount to saying that the Killing Fields was a positive development in the intellectual and cultural history of Cambodia.

 

"Socialist Realism" was a sort of mini dark ages for all the countries that had to undergo it. Forcing artists, writers and painters, film makers, intellecturals, all the creative people to regulate their work according to communist ideology ---with the punishment being torture and death---- was a cultural nadir in world history. Having met many Polish intellectuals who lived thru this phase of their country's history, i can attest that many lives were ruined, families ripped apart and the nation was poorer as a whole.

 

AD, the search for a "pure" communism, a "pure" islam means you want to walk down the road of the Taliban, the Khmer Rouge. If you are simply a Pakistani (which i suspect) using this angle to bash India, that's one thing, but if you have sincerely brainwashed yourself into believing this sort of ideology, i sincerely hope you never have power over anyone.

 

 


Heh talk all you wants but facts speak louder than words, if it is all failure why don't you see how China is now, compared to when it was 40 years before, yes i have no power over anyone, except from my employees at my small business establisment, unlike most of you guys here i am not going to pretend that i am somekind of hotshot who worked at some high tech defence industry, and im not going to pretend that i graduated at MIT, heck i just have my high school diploma, but what i found suprising is that this little fellow here all by himself, can exposed what most of you are here are: disgusting racists nothing more. and you i understand that you are from indonesia, which is still a developing country, have you realized lately what suharto dictactorship has brought you over the years of his power: STABILITY and economic PROSPERITY, i hope you still remember how strong and powerful you are under suharto, in which none of your neighbours dare to mess with you, and now see how tiny malaysia dare to display her navy at your backyard in sipadan and ligitan islands and there is nothing you can do about it, that will never happen under suharto rules, some people and some countries need to have strong leader with iron fist to get their nations into shape
 
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analdestroyer       2/22/2009 9:48:13 PM



1. Sure you can call me a commie troll for whatever reason in your head, to be equally racist you are a curry loving towelhead hairy monkey indian ass licker  i didn't fire the first shot, but willling to dance all night long








You are so ignorant about history of WG, and you seem to forget that there was no rice in the bowl during 1959-1962 "Mao-made" disaster. In short, you are a commie, and that is now proven true. I didn't call you name merely as an insult. Instead, I call you a commie because you are a commie, as you have proven yourself already. Your ignorance on other's culture and social problems is equally staggering. Given your knowledge level about WG, I can come up with the conclusion that you are also ignorant about the rest of Chinese history, probably except the part where commie historians tried so hard to fit Marxist historic views to incompatible Chinese history. The more you post, the more you reveal you're indeed a commie troll.

In 5 years time when you leave your teenage years you will look back at the posts you made on this forum and laugh, everyone else is doing that already.

 
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strat-T21C       2/22/2009 9:48:31 PM




Have to agree with you Nich. Generally you know my point of view is to let everyone have their say, but for AD to claim the cultural revolutino was a milestone in chinese culture is so ignorant, it's tantamount to saying that the Killing Fields was a positive development in the intellectual and cultural history of Cambodia.



 



"Socialist Realism" was a sort of mini dark ages for all the countries that had to undergo it. Forcing artists, writers and painters, film makers, intellecturals, all the creative people to regulate their work according to communist ideology ---with the punishment being torture and death---- was a cultural nadir in world history. Having met many Polish intellectuals who lived thru this phase of their country's history, i can attest that many lives were ruined, families ripped apart and the nation was poorer as a whole.



 



AD, the search for a "pure" communism, a "pure" islam means you want to walk down the road of the Taliban, the Khmer Rouge. If you are simply a Pakistani (which i suspect) using this angle to bash India, that's one thing, but if you have sincerely brainwashed yourself into believing this sort of ideology, i sincerely hope you never have power over anyone.



 



 






Heh talk all you wants but facts speak louder than words, if it is all failure why don't you see how China is now, compared to when it was 40 years before, yes i have no power over anyone, except from my employees at my small business establisment, unlike most of you guys here i am not going to pretend that i am somekind of hotshot who worked at some high tech defence industry, and im not going to pretend that i graduated at MIT, heck i just have my high school diploma, but what i found suprising is that this little fellow here all by himself, can exposed what most of you are here are: disgusting racists nothing more. and you i understand that you are from indonesia, which is still a developing country, have you realized lately what suharto dictactorship has brought you over the years of his power: STABILITY and economic PROSPERITY, i hope you still remember how strong and powerful you are under suharto, in which none of your neighbours dare to mess with you, and now see how tiny malaysia dare to display her navy at your backyard in sipadan and ligitan islands and there is nothing you can do about it, that will never happen under suharto rules, some people and some countries need to have strong leader with iron fist to get their nations into shape

If you call it stability and prosperity, then I'd hate to see what you would call "harsh"! The gov't of both PRC/Indonesia are criminal and irresponsible to their citizens, but then, with no civil rights or public representation, the peoples would not know of the crimes being perpetrated against them.
 
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analdestroyer       2/22/2009 10:04:10 PM

OK, show of hands, who is having fun with this turd and who wants to flush him? 

 

Ass bandit, if you don't shape up we will rat you out to SYSOP and then you will have to log on with a new name because your old one will be BANNED.  (I think the curry remark combined with your total worthlessness will do for casus belli.) 

 

We will still know it's you because of your unique style but like you say, we can dance all night.


 

So why don't you say something of some value to someone besides yourself.  Your masters wouldn't be pleased if they know how badly you are doing, commie rat.   You are bu hao.





 

Bring it anytime my friend, im here all by my own vs the whole damn members of this forum,  sure banned me or whatever ( but notice that my comment is only in response to equally racist comment by a member here, so if you want to ban for racism, you might need to ban most of the people here also  ), for simply shedding positive lights about China that none of you wants to admit, i wonder why, when even Hillary Clinton said herself  that "we are truly going to rise or fall together" even she admit that both countries can't live without eachother http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/22/AR2009022200468.html i truly hopes that the people attitudes here does not reflect US government view, or you will make life a lot more difficult for most of the people on the planet, especially in this time of crisis
 
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Godofgamblers       2/22/2009 10:25:09 PM
Yes, but anyone who lived thru the Suharto era would not have a 100% positive view. Yes there was prosperity and stability, but many other facets of life suffered. This is why it would be hard to find a reasonable person extolling Suharto as you would find few extolling the glories of Stalin.
 
I think that is why you find yourself in the crosshairs on this forum, AD. Your view lacks nuance and thus many suspect your sincerity. I believe you are someone who is well educated and intelligent; it is not hard to believe that you own a small business. But perhaps you should look with a more critical eye on things...
 
Yes, i am from indonesia.... where are you from?
 
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Godofgamblers    strat   2/22/2009 10:27:31 PM









Have to agree with you Nich. Generally you know my point of view is to let everyone have their say, but for AD to claim the cultural revolutino was a milestone in chinese culture is so ignorant, it's tantamount to saying that the Killing Fields was a positive development in the intellectual and cultural history of Cambodia.







 







"Socialist Realism" was a sort of mini dark ages for all the countries that had to undergo it. Forcing artists, writers and painters, film makers, intellecturals, all the creative people to regulate their work according to communist ideology ---with the punishment being torture and death---- was a cultural nadir in world history. Having met many Polish intellectuals who lived thru this phase of their country's history, i can attest that many lives were ruined, families ripped apart and the nation was poorer as a whole.







 







AD, the search for a "pure" communism, a "pure" islam means you want to walk down the road of the Taliban, the Khmer Rouge. If you are simply a Pakistani (which i suspect) using this angle to bash India, that's one thing, but if you have sincerely brainwashed yourself into believing this sort of ideology, i sincerely hope you never have power over anyone.







 







 














Heh talk all you wants but facts speak louder than words, if it is all failure why don't you see how China is now, compared to when it was 40 years before, yes i have no power over anyone, except from my employees at my small business establisment, unlike most of you guys here i am not going to pretend that i am somekind of hotshot who worked at some high tech defence industry, and im not going to pretend that i graduated at MIT, heck i just have my high school diploma, but what i found suprising is that this little fellow here all by himself, can exposed what most of you are here are: disgusting racists nothing more. and you i understand that you are from indonesia, which is still a developing country, have you realized lately what suharto dictactorship has brought you over the years of his power: STABILITY and economic PROSPERITY, i hope you still remember how strong and powerful you are under suharto, in which none of your neighbours dare to mess with you, and now see how tiny malaysia dare to display her navy at your backyard in sipadan and ligitan islands and there is nothing you can do about it, that will never happen under suharto rules, some people and some countries need to have strong leader with iron fist to get their nations into shape




If you call it stability and prosperity, then I'd hate to see what you would call "harsh"! The gov't of both PRC/Indonesia are criminal and irresponsible to their citizens, but then, with no civil rights or public representation, the peoples would not know of the crimes being perpetrated against them.


Oh really? are you sure you have your facts straight about Indo?
 
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