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Subject: Missle Defense System
Blackice0@hotmail.com    6/7/2001 9:36:39 PM
YEes, it may seem that we are building a wall, but it takes about 45 min for a missle launched from Russia to make it into the U.S. It takes the U.S. approx. 16 min to prep our missles, and another 10 to launch them, so, in theory, several of our missles would be destroyed, and these that made it out of the U.S. would be shot down by a foreign missle defence system. Unless these numbers seem comforting, and seem to allow you to think that we can retaliate or shoot down the foreign missles in that short time, then don.t you be suggesting your ideas to the U.S. Gov.
 
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John    NDM and Sandung   6/9/2001 5:19:09 AM
I can't see any logical argument why the US shouldn't have NMD if it wants it. It is a defensive system after all. I'd guess that money spend on NMD will kill fewer people than money spent on bombs, tanks, ICBMs or guns. And it may save lives if a missile is ever launched at the US. If you can afford it and you want it, buy it and tell everyone else to shut up. Mr Sandung and Mr Anarchist, I thought Swedes were a polite and cultured people, learn some manners! Swearing isn't big or clever. It makes me laugh everytime I hear "The Soviet Union wasn't socialist, so you can't say socialism is a bad idea". If you read Marx, Lenin, Mao, whoever they all talk about concentrating power in their hands for the good of the people. Even if that is done with the best of intentions, it always ends up with brutality and horror. How anyone can pretend that socialism works is beyond me. Capitalism works, liberalism (freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to free association. etc etc) works and democracy is superior to any alternative humanity has tried so far. Calling people KKK is pure slander and only makes your argument weaker. You can be conservative without being a racist. Bye the way, I read on an earlier post that the US spends more on defence than the next 10 biggest military spenders. Is that true?
 
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evlstu    RE:NDM and Sandung   6/14/2001 3:06:53 PM
If the US does spend more on defense than the next ten its because OVER HALF that money goes to personnel. That includes pay checks, training, medical, medical for family, college tuition, and all the other things that fall under that category. The US military also spends more money on R&D than anyone else. The US also spends more money on goodwill than anyone else. The US also has more people involved in peacekeeping than anyone else. Remember, it was the US and not the UN that footed the bill for the interventions in Somalia, Haiti, and the Balkins (and provided most of the equipment). That money came out of the military's training budget. The US has the world's largest single national economy, because we actually do have our act together,and is one of the most populous nations on the planet. We can afford to spend all this money but many of our friends and allies can't and there countries out there that would do them and us great harm if they could get away with it (i.e. china and iraq).
 
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evlstu    RE:NDM and Sandung   6/15/2001 2:56:08 PM
Just my opinion but I have a slight tendency to equate Sweeden (actually its government) with the term - "fence-sitter". Any comments ???
 
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Connor Mcgowan    RE:Missle Defense System   1/5/2002 2:31:42 PM
I am a Canadian citizen and I am really worried about The Strategic Missle Defence Program. From what I gather if a foreign missle carrying a nuclear warhead was laucnhed and just happened to come from THE NORTH, and the United States military were to successfully shooot down a ballistic missle where would the radioactive material and other debris fall? ON THE TRUE NORTH STRONG AND FREE! Ever since Sept. 11 thing, (which I might add is annoying the hell out of us up here) your government has been a little trigger happy (Afghanistan, Osama Bin Laden, War on Terorism). Now my counrty really doesn't have a very good military and if we were attacked by some aggressive nation, you would probably be the first to help us, and that is great, we're very thankful. But, when a country, in the act of protecting itself when under attack (possibly for a very good reason such as messing in the affairs of other nations and extremely bad foreign policies) is to protect itself by using another 'innocent nation' as a human sheild is just plain WRONG. Now, I have no beef with the american people, but your government sucks...
 
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Radioactive Man    RE:Missle Defense System   1/5/2002 3:51:17 PM
Well get over your worrying the system is designed to incept in bounds far outside of North American airspace. Oh and by the way most of the countries systems that we are worried about are so inaccurate that if they fired on Portland they might hit somewhere in British Columbia. Finally, I don’t know why you have such hostility towards the American government considered in a few decades it will be your government as well. :)
 
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bsl    RE:Missle Defense System   1/5/2002 10:12:39 PM
Connor, You've got a bit of a logical problem, here, Connor. If you're worried about a missile defense causing an incoming nuclear missile to be shot down over Canada, than there can't be anything to American being "a little trigger happy". Gotta choose, one way or the other. Either there are real missiles headed this way or there aren't. If there are, there's nothing, at all, in "trigger happy". If there aren't, then there isn't any risk of nuclear material falling on Canada. Which is it? Your other complaint is nonsense. "(H)uman shield"? Right. America is cowering behind Canada? It's the other way around, I'm afraid. Canada doesn't have a not very good military. You're down to virtually no military, thanks to some of your budgeting in the 1990s. You've got some men in uniforms, without equipment which works, or the training to use it. Perhaps you can explain the ethical calculus you use to arrive at the conclusion that it's America's obligation to refuse to defend itself against imminent mass murder in order to benefit Canada?
 
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bsl    RE:Missle Defense System   1/5/2002 10:15:14 PM
Connor, You've got a bit of a logical problem, here, Connor. If you're worried about a missile defense causing an incoming nuclear missile to be shot down over Canada, than there can't be anything to American being "a little trigger happy". Gotta choose, one way or the other. Either there are real missiles headed this way or there aren't. If there are, there's nothing, at all, in "trigger happy". If there aren't, then there isn't any risk of nuclear material falling on Canada. Which is it? Your other complaint is nonsense. "(H)uman shield"? Right. America is cowering behind Canada? It's the other way around, I'm afraid. Canada doesn't have a not very good military. You're down to virtually no military, thanks to some of your budgeting in the 1990s. You've got some men in uniforms, without equipment which works, or the training to use it. Perhaps you can explain the ethical calculus you use to arrive at the conclusion that it's America's obligation to refuse to defend itself against imminent mass murder in order to benefit Canada? BTW, if you're truly worried about the risk of non-explosive nuclear material falling somewhere in the Great White North (because that's what it would be; a radioactive mass small enough for you to hold in your hands), then I imagine you must support the idea of a space based missile defense? Right? Since that's the way to avoid having to try to shoot missile down as the head for their targets. Get them before they rise very far from their launchers. If you do, please remember to mention your support to your government.
 
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Jeff from Michigan    Have you ever checked the Jet Stream?   1/7/2002 9:20:30 PM
Conner, Even if a missile hits in the western U.S. where does the jet stream carry the fallout? Over Canada. Like it or not you are in the same boat we are. Ps, we in the U.S. should be royally PO'ed at your lax immigration policy. Canada harbors a great deal of terrorists. It was lucky that we caught the LA bomber at the border. Remember where the Egyptian in the steel container destination was? Toronto. Get a grip on your border and who you let into your country. It would be a shame to have to reinstitue passports for travel. That would make it a lot more difficult for you Canucks to come to our hospitals when yours fail.
 
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B Thurman    RE:Missle Defense System   4/12/2002 9:29:00 AM
Tuff shit if the 9-11 tragity is annoying to you because it was a major loss of life and a-lot of people risked their lives
 
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Canadain Grunt    RE:Missle Defense System   5/1/2002 10:01:31 AM
Not every Canadian feels the way Mr Mcgowan, his opinon is actually that of the minority. 911 has deeply effect us all,If it had'nt Canadian troops would not be in Afgan hunting down terrorists along side American troops. I can say this we (Canadians) have always been there when you needed us and will always continue to be. Yes our present gov't is weak, and liberal minded,when it comes to defense,and world issues. and we are hoping that will change in the near furture. our problem is there is no one to really vote for there all crooks or wing nuts. Coments on our military, Yes we are to small,but perhaps you should talk to some of your Soldiers and ask them if we are poorly trained or do not have the tools to do the Job, "some of our Snipers in Afgan have been recommend for the bronse star" by US command.and one has set a world record of a confirm kill at 2450 meters.does not sound like a poorly trained soldier to me. yes some of our equipment is old, and we do not have large numbers of it. but it does the job... However i will remind you that Canada has supported and perticapted in more peace keeping /making operations than "any" other nation in the world. I know whoopy eee but every nation has a niche this is ours. I left the best for last our Immigration policy, yes it sucks but no more than yours...And you forget that every border has 2 check pionts 1 Canadain and 1 American. and if they got past our side they also got past your side as well you mention one incidence about sea containers, and a LA bomber but fail to mention the ones we did catch. and yes we are working on that problem but to blame our policy for any terrorist problem is wrong...these guys lived in the US for serveral months if not years....who's fault is that.... WE are 2 distinct peoples regardless of what others may think, I'd say neibours but more like brothers, we don't have to agree on everything but when then crunch is on you can always count on our support.
 
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