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Subject: Units of Action
Zilly    1/3/2005 1:37:20 PM
I have been reading about the upcoming infrantry reorganizations into units of action. Some questions: What is an assualt platoon? What equipment will it use? If it is as I suspect a direct fire support platoon, isn't it stupid to call it an assault platoon when the infantry companies really do the assualting? On the armored UA side, what does a Recon troop look like?
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voodoo54    RE:Units of Action   1/3/2005 3:44:56 PM
Assualt Platoon 2x HMMWV w/ M2 .50cal 2x HMMWV w/ MK-19 GMG and ITAS 1x Cargo HMMWV It is the old Anti-Tank Platoon minus two ITAS(Improved Target Aquisition System, New version of the TOW ATGM)The anti-tank mission is being down played for a more general purpose support by fire role. Not sure what the new name is for. Maybe it sounds better than Heavy weapons platoon. Not sure about the recon troop.
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Eagle601    RE:Units of Action   1/4/2005 12:15:25 AM
Where does the AT stuff go? Surely it's still there. Or can the Assault Platoons switch weapons based on the tactical enviroment?
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oldinfantryman    RE:Units of Action   2/19/2005 7:02:36 PM
The US Army is fielding three types of UA at the present time. One is the Heavy UA, the other is the Infantry UA and the third is the Stryker Brigade UA. The Heavy UA will consist of a Reconnaissance, Surveillance and Target Acquisition (RSTA) Squadron (a US battalion), one armor battalion, and one mechanized infantry battalion. Additionally each UA will have an artillery battalion and a special troops battalion as well as a Forward Support Battalion (which is organized differently than the divsion based brigade support battalion) for logistics. I believe there is also a small engineer unit, but I don't recall if it was a company in the Special Troops Battalion or if it was a small engineer battalion. The Infantry UA is similar to the Heavy UA except that it doesn't have an armor battalion but rather two infantry battalions. The infantry battalions will look similar to the infantry battalions in the 82d and 101st now. Each infantry company will have nine man rifle squads in three rifle platoons as well as a nine man weapons squad. The UA will no doubt adjust as the units gain combat experience in operations agains insurgents and any others foolish enough to fight the US
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Eagle601    RE:Units of Action   2/19/2005 7:39:46 PM
I thought each UA would have 2 identical heavy battalions. Eash would have 2 tank, 2 mech infnatry, and 1 engineer company.
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oldinfantryman    RE:Units of Action   2/20/2005 12:05:06 PM
No, the UA will consist of only two so-called maneuver battalions. The big change is the appearance of a RSTA battalion/squadron. The idea that the RSTA and other assests will make maneuver more effective before actual direct combat or assault begins. In the past brigades had to use maneuver units to find the enemy and then commit the other battalions. All of this is part of the US Army's "see first, understand first, act first, finish decisively" concept.
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oldinfantryman    RE:Units of Action   2/20/2005 12:17:00 PM
Oh yeah, the Army heavy brigades have usually task organized with 2x2 (two mech two tank companies per battalion/task force). The UA is not permanently organized that way--at least not now. The only UA that will have permanent 2x2 is the Future Combat System (FCS) [currently in early stages of development and not to be fielded before 2014] will have two Combined Arms Battalions (CAB)consisting of two infantry companies and two Mounted Combat System (future tank-like armored systems) each. Current realities of urban combat make the fixed 2x2 unlikely where there is a need for more infantry in the maneuver battalion, but time will tell as the Army develops the FCS CAB.
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Mondo    RE:the Recon Squadron   5/9/2005 5:50:26 PM
The Recon Sqdn will consist of 23 Bradleys, 30 LRAS-equipped HMMWVs, and two NBC Fox vehicles. They will be arranged in three line troops, an HHT, and a FSC. Smaller characteristics include 9 Javelins and 6 120mm mortars for the Sqdn. The Bradley/HMMWV combination will be crewed by 19D Scouts.
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OXM_1962    RE: 2 x 2 Heavy BN   5/25/2005 12:44:36 PM
How will the 2 X 2 Mech Inf BN be organized? 2 CO's each of Mech and Armor or 4 CO's of mixed mech/armor? If so what will be the composition of each mixed comapny?? Thanks.
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Eagle601    RE: 2 x 2 Heavy BN   5/25/2005 4:07:05 PM
It will be one battalion with 4 tank companies and one battalion with 4 mech companies in garrison or peacetime. But for combat they will most likely operate as 2 batalions with 2 mech-2 tank companies. Both battaloins also have an engineer company as well. There is talk of making the 2X2 configuration the default organizatin though.
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OXM_1962    RE:Eagle601   5/25/2005 5:18:05 PM
I thought there was great advantages to putting 2 x 2 withing the same BN? What is the advantage of keeping them in seperate BNs? Will the heavy UAs every be expanded to 3 BNs per Col. MacGregor? Thanks.
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