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Subject: 'No True Glory'
SCCOMarine    11/12/2007 2:23:47 PM
A movie about the first battle of Fallujah starring Harrison Ford as Gen Mattis.
 
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SCCOMarine       11/12/2007 2:30:40 PM
An excerpt from Yahoo!
 
 
No True Glory: According to Variety, Harrison Ford is attached to play Marine General James "Mad Dog" Mattis, the "warrior monk", in an ensemble drama that marks the first major feature project about the current war in Iraq.

After four Americans were mutilated and hanged in Fallujah, the White House ordered an assault on the insurgent stronghold to be led by Gen. Jim Mattis (to be played by Ford). Marine forces devastated the opposition and were 48 hours away from taking control of Fallujah when the White House abruptly ordered them to stop. The Marines lost 28 soldiers the first time around and added another 50 fatalities after the White House ordered them to go back and finish the job six months later.
 
"No True Glory" will use the Fallujah assault as a way to explore the dangerous intersection of war and politics, depicting the drama from the viewpoints of soldiers, military leaders and politicians.
 
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SCCOMarine       11/12/2007 2:54:05 PM
Marine Gen. Mattis takes charge at Joint Forces Command
 
By KATE WILTROUT, The Virginian-Pilot
November 10, 2007
 

NORFOLK

A Marine Corps general known as "the warrior monk" and "Mad Dog " Mattis took the helm Friday of Joint Forces Command and NATO's Allied Command Transformation.

Gen. James N. Mattis relieved Air Force Gen. Lance Smith aboard the aircraft carrier George Washington, docked at Norfolk Naval Station. More than 1,000 people - many of them in military uniforms representing NATO's 26 member nations - attended the ceremony.

Mattis led the Marines in the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq and oversaw the fighting in Fallujah in 2004. Harrison Ford is set to portray Mattis in a movie about that battle called "No True Glory. "
 
Mattis also drew attention at a public forum in February 2005 when he said about fighting insurgents, "I t's fun to shoot some people." He was not punished for the remark, but the commandant of the Marine Corps counseled him to choose his words more carefully.

Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, explained Mattis' "monk" nickname with an anecdote about how the general - a bachelor - spent Christmas on duty at Quantico one year so his deputy could spend time with loved ones.

Mullen said Mattis is well-suited for his two new jobs: supplying troops to war while preparing the U.S. military and NATO forces for future challenges.

"I pledge to give all I've got to build the strongest coalitions, the most agile forces and the most ethical defenders of our nations," Mattis said.

Smith, a fighter pilot who flew combat missions over Vietnam, will retire in January after 38 years in uniform.

 

Staff writer Louis Hansen contributed to this report.

Kate Wiltrout, (757) 446-2629, kate.wiltrout@pilotonline.com

 
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Horsesoldier       11/12/2007 10:01:50 PM

"No True Glory" will use the Fallujah assault as a way to explore the dangerous intersection of war and politics, depicting the drama from the viewpoints of soldiers, military leaders and politicians.

Bing West's book is superb, though I'm concerned about the Hollywood movie, given the above kind of verbage being associated with the product.  Sounds like it's going to be high end Hollywood preachy, which is not exactly my cup of tea.  Hopefully, however, I'm wrong, as I'd much rather see something about Fallujah or the other notable battles of the current war (Op Anaconda comes to mind) in the vein of Blackhawk Down rather than Lions for Lambs Part 2.
 
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Claymore       11/13/2007 3:17:11 AM
Hollywood will screw this amazing story up. The Black Hawk Down's might slip through but don't hold your breadth.

Pat Dollard spend time with the Marines in Ramadi and Falluja making a documentary and it WILL be worth seeing.

 
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Cato1    Prepare To Be Disappointed   11/13/2007 2:46:52 PM
Great book, but the movie's gonna blow, for the following:
1)This film is not about Al Fidr. This movie will concentrate exclusively on the debacle of Fallujah Pt.1, with only passing refference to the final shootout in Nov. 04' alloted in the script.
 
2)Despite the reference of "glory" in the title of the printed work, be prepeare to be fed the line that all soldiers and Marines are victims , rather than heroes. It is, after all, an unjust, illigal war for oil (imperialism, part of a Zionist conspiracy, etc.) so those that participate in it must be portrayed as being screwed by the man.  Expect a-lot of "golly, why in the world are we here fighting Bush's war?" Charming, no?
 
3)Lastly, Harrison Ford isn't Indiana Jones or Hahn Solo in real life. He is just a sixty-five year old man who wears an earring. Poofta. I'm sure those of you out in the United States don't get the volume of "entertainment news" that we do here in the People's Democratic Republic of Greater Los Angeles, but Ford is on record as espousing political views more in synch with a certain Venezualan caudillo (or Sean Penn, for that matter), than anybody to be found between San Onofre and Oceanside. It is rediculous that Mad Dog Mattis is gonna be portrayed by this douchebag.
 
I personally am about as exited to see this one as Redacted, The Battle for Haditha, or Lions for Lambs. I'd personally volunteer to spend an all-expenses paid month at some super-secret-squirrel CIA interrogation center in Afghanistan than sit through any of this celluloid cottage-cheese discharge.
 
Cato
 
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Claymore       11/13/2007 9:11:55 PM
Good post Cato, nice to see another LA dude who knows what H-Wood is about
 
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WarNerd       11/14/2007 1:47:39 AM
It is interesting to note that most of the good military movie is the last decade or so have not had an "A list" actor in a leading role.
 
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SCCOMarine       11/14/2007 2:42:41 PM

It is interesting to note that most of the good military movie is the last decade or so have not had an "A list" actor in a leading role.



Politics!
 
Most A-list actors have an agenda to push, and oscars usually follow their agenda.
 
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the British Lion       11/14/2007 2:54:07 PM

It is interesting to note that most of the good military movie is the last decade or so have not had an "A list" actor in a leading role.


Erm, not to be pedantic or anything but: Saving Private Ryan (Tom Hanks), We Were Soldiers (Mel Gibson), Black Hawk Down (Josh Hartnett, Ewan McGregor)

All 'A listers'

B.L.
 
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the British Lion       11/14/2007 2:59:08 PM




It is interesting to note that most of the good military movie is the last decade or so have not had an "A list" actor in a leading role.




Erm, not to be pedantic or anything but: Saving Private Ryan (Tom Hanks), We Were Soldiers (Mel Gibson), Black Hawk Down (Josh Hartnett, Ewan McGregor)

All 'A listers'

B.L.
Of course, that all depends on what your definition of a 'good' military movie is I guess...

B.L.

 
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