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bob the brit    9/10/2007 8:17:15 PM
here's a question from a brit currently residing in your wonderful country (not trying to lick arseholes here, seriously thinking on retiring here) what opinions do some of you hold on Canada's role in Afghanistan? just curious, don't answer if either a.) it's been thoroughly debated already (and i've just been too lazy to check) or b.) you'd rather not.
 
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bob the brit       9/10/2007 8:18:14 PM
oh and did you get them galaxy's yet (or was it something else?)
 
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ArtyEngineer    Canadians in A'stan   9/10/2007 10:40:23 PM
Got the belowemail  from a canadian buddy today.  All I can say to guys is that you are goin one hell of a job.  Keep it up.

"This is a recent e-mail from a Canadian M777 gunner in Afghanistan.
 
Interesting read – seems the M777 is a desired and feared weapon.

From a 'Friend' in Afghanistan. Thought you might like a first hand report. It is not a biased and sanitized media version. Interesting

Hello Everyone:

I thought that I would send another update. So here it is.

Over the past month and a bit, I was deployed with my troop to an area in the Northern area of Kandahar Province, near the Kakriz District Centre. We initially deployed there with two teams of American Special Forces and two companies of Afghan National Army with their American training cadre. The operation was called Operation Adalat and its purpose was to disrupt Taliban activity near an area called the belly button. The belly button was a round out crop of mountains approximately 20 Km in diameter with several passes through them. It was a main supply route for the Taliban bringing fighters and equipment south to Kandahar and Helmand areas. The Americans requested our M777 guns because of the good showing we had made earlier in Helmand area when we had fired in support of their operations there. Right now we have the largest calibre guns in theatre and everyone wants them.

We deployed on the 2nd of June and arrived at our fire base on the third. Immediately we began construction of shell scrapes for protection, which we eventually developed into Hesco Bastion walled bunkers with walls 2 m deep by 1.5m thick. Each gun detachment had a bunker as well as the command bunker. We Canadians dug like fiends for the first week making the positions as safe as possible. The Americans thought we were crazy. Their defences were significantly less developed.During the first few days we were rocketed and mortared many times. The Taliban hit us with 81mm mortar fire and 107mm rockets.

The Americans
are brave and smart but they joined us in the bunkers when they could.We eventually we silenced all of Taliban mortars and rocket firing positions with counter battery fire from our 155mm guns pounding them daily with high explosive and airburst fires. I give the gunners full credit as they stood by their guns while taking mortar fire, loading and firing for all they were worth. Bravery like that is seldom witnessed.

We also supported the American Special Forces to the extreme North West of us when they were ambushed numerous times by the Taliban. The targets were so far away that we had to use rocket assist projectiles to achieve the range required. My troop set the distance record of 30067m for the Canadian artillery with 155mm guns, shooting 67m farther than the round is rated for.

 By day six we had more or less silenced their mortars and rockets, so the Taliban tried to attack our Southern flank with small arms and RPG fire. The attack lasted only a few minutes as the Americans and ANA poured so much fire down upon the Taliban that our observer had to mark the mortar targets with smoke in order to determine which explosions were our mortars and which were those of the American grenade launchers. The Taliban drove away so fast that we could see their trucks jumping over the wadis.

 Over the span of the first two weeks, we shot many missions in support of the Americans clearing the area around us and continuing to ensure that the Taliban did not try to reoccupy their firing positions in the mountains to our north. We monitored the Taliban communications and used there chatter against them. Quite often using the chatter to pick or adjust our artillery fire. The Taliban always collect their dead, this was a terrible disadvantage to them as we would quite often engage their clean up teams.

 On one

 
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Ehran       9/11/2007 12:20:26 PM

oh and did you get them galaxy's yet (or was it something else?)



c17's and i think they ordered 3 of them.
 
as for 'stan it's one of those things that will take a long time to resolve and probably will never be something we are entirely happy with.  i would be inclined to bite the bullet and commit troops till it was over rather than trying to hand off in 2009 to someone else.  i think more attention needs to be spent on training up the afghans than there is now.  we seem able to clear the taliban out of an area but the afghans don't seem able to keep them from moving back in after the fact.
 
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Jungle-Man       9/23/2007 5:40:07 PM
Coming from someone in the Canadian army, I can tell you that within the CF itself the mission in Afghanistan is viewed for the most part as necessary, and that we're slowly but surely approaching victory. I'm also a student at York University and there the overall view of the mission varies from neutral to negative, with a lot of people feeling that we're at best wasting our time and at worst committing war crimes (this is from the more radical student groups). But since its a very liberal university that is to be expected.
 
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bob the brit       9/24/2007 8:33:26 PM

Coming from someone in the Canadian army, I can tell you that within the CF itself the mission in Afghanistan is viewed for the most part as necessary, and that we're slowly but surely approaching victory. I'm also a student at York University and there the overall view of the mission varies from neutral to negative, with a lot of people feeling that we're at best wasting our time and at worst committing war crimes (this is from the more radical student groups). But since its a very liberal university that is to be expected.


york uni'? not to far from where i am right now. it's in toronto isn't it? i'm currently in peterborough, you think that uni's liberal, you should see some of the people coming out of the one here (trent i think it's called), i think the problem here (i've noticed) is the media, it seems only negatives and deaths are ever mentioned really. ah yes the war crimes line, very common line from some of the people i've talked to aout it over here.
 
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Ehran       9/25/2007 2:39:11 PM
the reporters covering the military tend to know almost nothing about the military which is depressing.  leads to all sorts of problems with accurately reporting what's going on.
 
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