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Subject: LHD procurement plan
Ezekiel    12/2/2007 2:57:16 AM
1) what is considered generally to be the best LHD design?... I was under the impression it is the new canberra class that the aussies are buying two of. 2) what is the specific criteria in which one makes a judgement on a good or bad LHD, including bang for the buck considerations??? 3) How many of thiese crafts would a country need for a force deployment 5000-7000 km away in multiple drop points??? 4) what would be the projected overall naval budget for such a procurement plan envisioned in your LHD program???
 
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verong       12/2/2007 9:56:58 PM
OK,
 
Lets Say your the USA.
 
conditions
war against North Korea and PRC over South Korea and Taiwan
objective
1. keep Taiwan  free
2. Stop Battle over South Korea
in this scenario very few would be needed
 
now condition was full scale invasion of PRC
just to begin with you would need to be able to put ashore 1,000,000 combat troops for a simple foothold thus your talking 30 CVBG ,40 ARG, just simply a hugh force just for a foothold your talking 1000 ships maybe more
 
Sincerely,
 
Keith
P.S. your talking USD of 5,000,000,000,000 plus to equip that force
 
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Herald1234       12/2/2007 11:30:47 PM

1) what is considered generally to be the best LHD design?... I was under the impression it is the new canberra class that the aussies are buying two of.
2) what is the specific criteria in which one makes a judgement on a good or bad LHD, including bang for the buck considerations???
3) How many of thiese crafts would a country need for a force deployment 5000-7000 km away in multiple drop points???
4) what would be the projected overall naval budget for such a procurement plan envisioned in your LHD program???

1. That depends on what you want to accomplish. the bigger the job, the bigger the LHA and the more you need.
2. Same as 1.
3. Same as 1.
4  $1K per 100 tons.
 
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WarNerd       12/3/2007 3:56:53 AM

4  $1K per 100 tons.

This is way low.  I think you mean $1M per 100 tons.
 
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Herald1234       12/3/2007 10:44:21 AM



4  $1K per 100 tons.


This is way low.  I think you mean $1M per 100 tons.

50,000 tonne ship/100 tonnes.

500 tonnes x $1M= $500M US. Agreed-2 magnitude error. Must have been tired and suffered BF.

Herald 


 
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Ezekiel       12/10/2007 9:54:57 AM
How much would it cost to procure 5 wasp class LHD's fully equipped and maintained???
 
What is the capabilities of such a force if projected 3000 km away from home??
 
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verong       12/10/2007 7:44:48 PM
Hey Ezekiel,
 
about ten billion procure including helo and escorts but not training or O&M.  each!!!!!x 5 equals 50,000,000,000 USD
 
Sincerely,
 
Keith
 
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B.Smitty       12/11/2007 8:14:22 AM
New Wasps would likely run $2-3 billion each, just for the ship.
 
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TDidier       12/23/2007 4:42:57 PM

1) what is considered generally to be the best LHD design?... I was under the impression it is the new canberra class that the aussies are buying two of.
2) what is the specific criteria in which one makes a judgement on a good or bad LHD, including bang for the buck considerations???
3) How many of thiese crafts would a country need for a force deployment 5000-7000 km away in multiple drop points???
4) what would be the projected overall naval budget for such a procurement plan envisioned in your LHD program???


4 LHD of the Mistral size are enougth to carry all the vehicles and materials for a 5000 men strong Mecanized brigade (100 MBT, 200 APC, 50 155/120mm tubes and all the usual stuff).
 
For a short sail (1 week) somewhat the half of the men are able to be transported bye those four, the rest on the escort fleet. For a longer operation only 1800 onboard the rest on the escorters and supply ships.
 
What is this aussie thing? A spanish Buque de Projection?
 
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TDidier       12/23/2007 5:07:31 PM

1) what is considered generally to be the best LHD design?... I was under the impression it is the new canberra class that the aussies are buying two of.
2) what is the specific criteria in which one makes a judgement on a good or bad LHD, including bang for the buck considerations???
3) How many of thiese crafts would a country need for a force deployment 5000-7000 km away in multiple drop points???
4) what would be the projected overall naval budget for such a procurement plan envisioned in your LHD program???


4 LHD of the Mistral size are enougth to carry all the vehicles and materials for a 5000 men strong Mecanized brigade (100 MBT, 200 APC, 50 155/120mm tubes and all the usual stuff).
 
For a short sail (1 week) somewhat the half of the men are able to be transported bye those four, the rest on the escort fleet. For a longer operation only 1800 onboard the rest on the escorters and supply ships.
 
What is this aussie thing? A spanish Buque de Projection?
 
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Yimmy       12/23/2007 5:12:08 PM


4 LHD of the Mistral size are enougth to carry all the vehicles and materials for a 5000 men strong Mecanized brigade (100 MBT, 200 APC, 50 155/120mm tubes and all the usual stuff).

 

So each ship can carry 25 MBT's, 50 APC's and 12 SPG's in addition to 1,250 troops?

 
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