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Subject: China's Program 863 - Building a Post-nuclear Super-weapon
TheArmchairCmd    1/13/2006 4:01:39 PM
Oh, well. What use have actual capabilities when you can dream them up. Is this kinda stuff the feed for some of the exotic ideas of an attack on the West? Inferiority complex anyone? Interesting also, that being able to destroy the world, or more specific enemy populations rank high in the mind of some people. TARGET=_blank>China's Program 863 - Building a Post-nuclear Super-weapon Lev Navrozov Friday, Sept. 30, 2005 Post-1949 China had to ensure for itself Mutual Assured Destruction (that is, if one country nuked another, the attacked country would be destroyed except for its hidden means of nuclear retaliation, and these would destroy the attacker) which required nuclear bombs and warheads as well as the means of their global delivery. On October 16, 1964, China tested its first nuclear weapon, which was followed by 24 tests, including the test of a thermonuclear bomb, equivalent to 4 million tons of TNT (trinitrotoluene) and dropped by a test bomber on November 17, 1976. Between 1976 and 1986, China completed its preparedness for Mutual Assured Destruction. What next? Post-nuclear super-weapons able to destroy or neutralize the Western means of nuclear retaliation - that is, to circumvent Mutual Assured Destruction - and thus put the West at the Chinese dictators' mercy. So, in 1986, Deng Xiao Peng founded Program 863, a kind of academy of sciences and technologies to do research in seven fields to develop post-nuclear super-weaponry capable of destroying or neutralizing the enemy means of nuclear retaliation. I call this post-nuclear super-weaponry Super-weapon No. 3, to succeed nuclear weapons (Super-weapon No. 2), which in 1945 geostrategically succeeded firearms (Super-weapon No. 1) that had enabled Europe to expand all over the world until the West got embroiled in the first the Great War, or World War I. The existence of the seven-field Chinese-style ‘Manhattan Project for the quest of Super-weapon No. 3' has been no more secret than is the existence of the Pentagon in the United States. I received from my contact in China — no, not a top secret Chinese government document, but a four-page article from the Wuhann TV station magazine — about how this Program 863 in quest for Super-weapon No. 3 came into being:
In early 1986 two famous [and unknown-in-the-West] Chinese scientists came up with a proposal for the development of new advanced technologies for defensive and offensive warfare After these two scientists' recommendations had been approved, they and two other scientists, Wong Chi Chong and Yang Cha Chi, took their proposal on March 2, 1986, to the supreme leader of China. Much to their satisfaction, Deng Xiao Peng approved it promptly, on March 5, 1986, with this comment: "Execute it as quickly as possible! No delay!" After that there had been seven meetings, and on November 18th, 1986, the government put forward an outline of the high-tech development program, named "863." It was called "863" because Deng approved it in March of 1986.
Compare the above with what happened in the United States in 1939. Hitler's war for world domination was inevitable, given General Karl Haushofer's geostrategy for world domination, which Hitler faithfully carried out. When all other means to attract the attention of the U.S. government to the need of developing nuclear weapons ahead of Hitler had failed, Einstein, the world's most famous scientist, sent a letter to Roosevelt in 1939. While Deng Xiao Peng approved the proposal put to him within three days, Roosevelt ignored the letter from Einstein for about two months. Finally, $6,000 was earmarked for the research. Hitler declared war on the United States in 1941, and it was only in 1942 that the Manhattan Project got under way in earnest. As far as I know, the only time Program 863 has been mentioned in the U.S. publicly since 1986 is in a New York Times report about Chinese farming! Here in front of me is that unique report in the New York Times of Oct. 7, 2000, by its correspondent Craig Smith from China. As we have all been expected to believe since 1991, there are world dangers like Iraq, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, and Iraq again, but there is no country more peaceful and more preoccupied with the growth of prosperity of its people than China. In this respect it is the "diametrical opposite" of countries like Iraq in 1991, Yugoslavia in 1999, Afghanistan in 2001, or Iraq again in March 2003. Hence the benign or even affectionate content of the New York Times report from China in front of me. It is entitled "China Rushes to Adopt Genetically Modified Crops." You see? Some countries, less concerned with the people's prosperity, use natural crops. Not China! Its genetically modified or engineered crops yield better harvests. A large photograph dep
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Nanheyangrouchuan    RE:China's Program 863 - Building a Post-nuclear Super-weapon    1/13/2006 6:55:05 PM
GM crops aren't doing much to counter the loss of farmland in china. Makes you wonder, however, if China is developing a GM pest to wipe out america's midwest and california farm lands. Or hypersaline bombs to poison our water.
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serpentx777    RE:China's Program 863 - Building a Post-nuclear Super-weapon    1/16/2006 3:52:22 PM
The question is, is the United States working on similar weapons or ways to counter them.
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Nanheyangrouchuan    RE:China's Program 863 - Building a Post-nuclear Super-weapon    1/16/2006 7:23:11 PM
Maybe not, China is much more into mass slaughter than we are.
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