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Subject: Best advanced jet trainer for 2006
MadRat    4/17/2006 1:16:28 AM
You have the choice from the following for an advanced jet trainer: Aermacchi SpA MB-339(A) JET TRAINER, ITALY http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mb339/images/mb1.jpg> Aermacchi SpA M-346 ADVANCED FIGHTER TRAINER, ITALY http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/yak/images/M-346_2.jpg> Aero Vodochody & Boeing L159 ALCA ADVANCED LIGHT COMBAT AIRCRAFT, CZECH REPUBLIC http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/l159/images/l1596.jpg> Avioane Craiova SA & Elbit Systems IAR-99C SOIM LEAD IN FIGHTER JET TRAINER AIRCRAFT, ROMANIA http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/iar_99c/images/IAR-99_3.jpg> BAE SYSTEMS HAWK 60 TRAINER/LIGHT COMBAT AIRCRAFT, UNITED KINGDOM http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/hawk/images/hawk1.jpg> BAE SYSTEMS HAWK 100 TRAINER/LIGHT COMBAT AIRCRAFT, UNITED KINGDOM http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/hawk/images/hawk2.jpg> BAE SYSTEMS HAWK 200 TRAINER/LIGHT COMBAT AIRCRAFT, UNITED KINGDOM http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/hawk/images/hawk3.jpg> BAE SYSTEMS HAWK MK 127 / MK 128 LIFT LEAD IN FIGHTER TRAINER, UNITED KINGDOM http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/lift/images/lift7.jpg> BAE Systems & BoeingT-45A GOSHAWK TRAINER AIRCRAFT, USA http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/t45/images/t45_1.jpg> EADS CASA C-101 AVIOJET BASIC AND ADVANCED MILITARY JET TRAINER, SPAIN http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/aviojet/images/aviojet2.jpg> EADS MAKO ADVANCED TRAINER AND LIGHT ATTACK AIRCRAFT, GERMANY http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mako/images/eads-mako2.jpg> Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) & Aviation Technology Group Inc (ATG) JAVELIN AJT Mk.20 PHASE2 ADVANCED JET TRAINER, USA http://www.gizmag.com/watermark.php?p=3887_10.jpg> Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) & Aviation Technology Group Inc (ATG) JAVELIN AJT Mk.30 PHASE3 ADVANCED JET TRAINER, USA http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/javelin/images/1-javelin.jpg> Lockheed Martin & Korea Aerospace Industries Ltd. T-50 GOLDEN EAGLE JET TRAINER AND LIGHT ATTACK AIRCRAFT, SOUTH KOREA http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/t-50/images/t50_8.jpg> Northrop Grumman T-38 TALON TWIN-JET HIGH-ALTITUDE SUPERSONIC TRAINER, USA http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/t-38/images/T-38Talon_7.jpg.> SIAI Marchetti S211A JET TRAINER, ITALY http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/s211a/images/s211a6.jpg> Yakovlev YAK-130 COMBAT TRAINER, RUSSIA http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/yak_130/images/Yak130_1.jpg>
 
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ArtyEngineer    RE:Best advanced jet trainer for 2006   4/17/2006 1:28:41 AM
Well, based on a "It looks really cool" attitude to aircraft I go for the EADS MAKO, however the YAK 130 dont look to shabby either. Seriously, I think the Hawk family of aircraft have shown that they can be tailored to fit pretty much any nations jet trainer and lead in trainer requirments.
 
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Lawman    RE:Best advanced jet trainer for 2006   4/17/2006 7:52:35 AM
T/A-50, followed by the M346 and Yak 130, and then the Hawk, though it all depends what you are after - if you want a trainer, then the combat capability of the T/A-50 may not be worth it, but if you need a secondary combat capability, then it wins hands down!
 
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DropBear    RE:Best advanced jet trainer for 2006   4/17/2006 7:53:52 AM
Depends on what systems you want to plonk in them. The RAAF Hawk127 LIFT has a cackpit/avionics suite that resembles a RAAF F-18. Right down to the landing gear handle! On the outside it looks like a Hawk but on the inside you'd think you were sitting in a Hornet. Not to mention that it is Sgt.Fletcher plumbed and will/is to qualify for Asraam carriage. Agree with AE, those two do look the biz!
 
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AussieEngineer    RE:Best advanced jet trainer for 2006   4/17/2006 8:44:41 AM
Does that IAI jet strike you as a person with an out of proportion head.
 
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Nichevo    RE:Best advanced jet trainer for 2006 - why not?   4/17/2006 8:53:49 AM
Without screaming, 'splain to me pleez Lucy why such a/c or a/c of their parameters could not do many combat missions for the US? Would it be range? The fact that acquiring a batch of them would cost more than the additional marginal expense of executing more (e.g.) SH missions with existin g craft? Surely avionics issues should be nominal at this stage of the game (viz. Hawk (whatever a Sgt. Fletcher is ;< )) and by definition they should be superlative WVR capable a/c with AIM-9X and a gun. Or AMRAAM if remote cued; I presume they have no suitable radar (?).
 
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DropBear    RE:Best advanced jet trainer for 2006 - why not?   4/17/2006 9:18:11 AM
A Sgt.Fletcher is a plug n play gravy stroker.
 
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Yimmy    RE:Best advanced jet trainer for 2006 - why not?   4/17/2006 10:51:05 AM
I bet if you uprated the Goshawk to Hawk 200 standard you could fit loads of the blighters on a super carrier...
 
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DropBear    RE:Best advanced jet trainer for 2006 - why not?   4/17/2006 11:57:24 AM
It would still only be a short ranged transonic buggy. You may as well refurb hundreds of 1970 era F-5E's too.
 
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Yimmy    RE:Best advanced jet trainer for 2006 - why not?   4/17/2006 12:11:46 PM
The F5E was carrier capable? Anyway, that new American jet trainer looks like a 21st Century F5.
 
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Lawman    RE:Best advanced jet trainer for 2006 - why not?   4/17/2006 12:19:57 PM
If you mean the ATG Javelin, it may look like it, but it really is not a warplane, it is not even in the T-38 category! If you mean the T-50, then I would have to agree, it has a lot of potential as an F-5 replacement - though it is officially Korean, with 'help' from Lockheed.
 
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