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Subject: Bin Laden killed in raid by Navy SEALS
esmoore5    5/2/2011 4:33:02 AM
Elite Navy SEALs conducted bin Laden mission: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/01/elite-navy-seals-conducted-bin-laden-mission/
 
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esmoore5       5/2/2011 4:34:45 AM
"The discovery that bin Laden's was living in an army town in Pakistan raises pointed questions about how he managed to evade capture and even whether Pakistan's military and intelligence leadership knew of his whereabouts and sheltered him.": http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110502/ap_on_bi_ge/as_pakistan_bin_laden
 
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esmoore5       5/2/2011 4:37:24 AM
The link in the initial post doesn't seem to work, so I'll try posting it again here: Elite Navy SEALs conducted bin Laden mission: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/01/elite-navy-seals-conducted-bin-laden-mission/
 
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mabie       5/2/2011 7:46:33 AM
This operation was in the making for some time so I'm curious what kind of thinking went into the selection of the SEALs to get the job done in lieu of, say, Delta Force? Maybe it was something as mundane as the SEALs being available and DF being tied up in other operations but maybe there was some inter-service politics at play as well. These are serious bragging rights after all. 
 
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newjarheaddean    why kill him?   5/2/2011 8:20:10 AM
AHOY,

I agree that the location raises questions. IMO the fact that the U.S. did a raid tells me the intel was rearly good i.e. they must have known for sure there was no tunnel. No FPF (final protective fire) system in place. 

And I understand a bomb would have made I.D. more difficult too.  

As usual I want to see the videos! You know Obama was watching live from the situation room.

And I never want to here a politician again, say he heard about it first on CNN after we waited last night for an hour for all the VIPs to be notified. LOL.  

"I well bet my lucky star" IKYG

G-day!   
 
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lunar    SEALs   5/2/2011 8:44:40 AM
Navy Seal Team 6.  This is an elite team within an elite special forces unit. They did it with the up most precision and stealth--as far as military reports that are coming in.
 
I'm sure other countries will be saying "well we could have done that too".....bull shit. This Seal team has to be given major accolades.
 
Its troubling seeing some British news blogs by its readers saying thing like "this isn't the way to bring someone to justice"....no wonder why that country is being pushed around, why its police gets man handled by anti-austerity measure protestors, why muslims in that country do whatever they want.
 
 
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JTR~~    ironic   5/2/2011 10:52:29 AM

Navy Seal Team 6.  This is an elite team within an elite special forces unit. They did it with the up most precision and stealth--as far as military reports that are coming in.

 

I'm sure other countries will be saying "well we could have done that too".....bull shit. This Seal team has to be given major accolades.

 

Its troubling seeing some British news blogs by its readers saying thing like "this isn't the way to bring someone to justice"....no wonder why that country is being pushed around, why its police gets man handled by anti-austerity measure protestors, why muslims in that country do whatever they want.

 


"It?s troubling seeing some British news blogs by its readers saying thing like "this isn't the way to bring someone to justice"...."

i said only this morning that had this op been carried out by UKSF in the same manner, and Bin Laden was killed during the fire fight as happened, then you can bet that US reports would be up in arms over how the Brits failed to bring him in alive, and that it was a failure to carry out justice for the victims of 9/11.

 

However his death is indeed welcomed, but we must ask ourselves, was it worth all of this? In the grand scheme it changes very little. If anything it could work equally as well in the radicals favour. This could bring cause for the unity that they have been looking for and the British and US government have already issued calls for vigilance in anticipation of retaliatory attacks. news reports have already been quick to mention how now several groups seem to wish to make moves in order to form a more joint effort against the coalition and carry out domestic attacks on western soil whereas previously this had been a more independent endeavour. With Laden dead however Al Qaeda will not end, someone else will take his place and radical Islam will unfortunately continue to rot this planet.

 

However i do see this as coming as a welcome morale boost for coalition forces, and in some ways it will bring a degree of closure to the victims of the terror attack both in New York on 9/11 and in the London bombings on 7/7.

 

i have one question however, Bin Laden seemed to be the main focus of the US effort in the war on terror, now with him out of the way is there a distinct risk of a lack further will to participate in the war by the US people, will this take the wind out of their sails in terms of the US war effort as it were?
 

by the way "why Muslims in that country do whatever they want." thoroughly agree with this, the UK governments PC emphasis drive and other such left wing social ideas are crippling the nation, it is being handed over to radical minority groups for the sake of their civil liberties even when it is direct contradiction of the well being and interests of the moderate majority.

 

 
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lunar       5/2/2011 11:05:03 AM
I don't feel this will take the air out of the sail; but, it could becase President Obama isn't a terror warrior as Bush.
 
I hope to see Great Brittain to be the country of their past....and yes, i agree PC hurts.
 
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SantaClaws       5/2/2011 11:06:08 AM

"It?s troubling seeing some British news blogs by its readers saying thing like "this isn't the way to bring someone to justice"...."

i said only this morning that had this op been carried out by UKSF in the same manner, and Bin Laden was killed during the fire fight as happened, then you can bet that US reports would be up in arms over how the Brits failed to bring him in alive, and that it was a failure to carry out justice for the victims of 9/11.


 


However his death is indeed welcomed, but we must ask ourselves, was it worth all of this? In the grand scheme it changes very little. If anything it could work equally as well in the radicals favour. This could bring cause for the unity that they have been looking for and the British and US government have already issued calls for vigilance in anticipation of retaliatory attacks. news reports have already been quick to mention how now several groups seem to wish to make moves in order to form a more joint effort against the coalition and carry out domestic attacks on western soil whereas previously this had been a more independent endeavour. With Laden dead however Al Qaeda will not end, someone else will take his place and radical Islam will unfortunately continue to rot this planet.


 


However i do see this as coming as a welcome morale boost for coalition forces, and in some ways it will bring a degree of closure to the victims of the terror attack both in New York on 9/11 and in the London bombings on 7/7.


 


i have one question however, Bin Laden seemed to be the main focus of the US effort in the war on terror, now with him out of the way is there a distinct risk of a lack further will to participate in the war by the US people, will this take the wind out of their sails in terms of the US war effort as it were?

 


by the way "why Muslims in that country do whatever they want." thoroughly agree with this, the UK governments PC emphasis drive and other such left wing social ideas are crippling the nation, it is being handed over to radical minority groups for the sake of their civil liberties even when it is direct contradiction of the well being and interests of the moderate majority.


 



It has been widely held by US analysts, for years, that Bin Laden was not going to be taken alive. I really don't think anyone cares as long as we got the perpetrator.
 
As for it working out in the radicals favor, I doubt it. He was their figure head and AQ recruits pledged loyalty specifically to him and his ideals. If we had taken him alive, imagine all the acts radicals would do to try and secure his freedom. Remember the good old days of beheadings to secure the release of Taliban prisoners? This is Osama Bin Laden, a much more important figure so they would be willing to go much further to achieve their goals.
 
There are still many people to kill and this isn't over. We still have Mullah Omar, Zawahiri, and various other leaders that need to be disposed of. The war isn't over by a long shot and our long term goal is still to stabilize Afgahn and secure the Pakistan border,
 
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DUDWIG    BEST OF THE BEST   5/2/2011 11:07:57 AM
As a Navy veteran 64-65 and a retired Fire Captain this is the greatest day for our families. A job WELL DONE. May God bless you and keep you safe. Thank You for your service, dedication, and professional action on 01 May 2011.
 
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newjarheaddean    ANYWAYS!    5/2/2011 11:42:00 AM
AHOY,

I was just realizing that the security for that neighborhood may have dictated seismic sensors to prevent anyone from tunneling in to a retired generals home.

So that may have been why no fear of a tunnel exit.

Also I just wanted to make sure everyone understood my other point about the intel being so good. And that is to say it would seem they could have captured him just as easy.

Maybe the Seals missed up?

"I well bet my lucky star" IKYG

G-day!  
 
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