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Subject: CAG recruitment
dirtykraut    3/8/2007 12:19:37 PM
I heard a rumour that CAG is now recruiting people out of basic training. This is supposedly because of the bad habbits that many previous expereinced veterans have in OTC. I just wanted to ask people in the know if there was any truth to this rumour. It is a fairly credible source, but highly unlikely.
 
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mough       3/8/2007 9:31:57 PM
No.
 
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GOP       3/8/2007 10:17:31 PM

No.


I was thinking the same thing, lol.
 
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smitty237       3/8/2007 11:44:29 PM
Since 9/11 the Army has allowed recruits to choose Special Forces as their primary MOS, and those recruits then spend several years training until they qualify to join a Special Forces team, but while I highly doubt Delta would be recruiting basic trainees.  Still, I guess it is conceivable that some stud at Ft. Benning or elsewhere could catch the eye of a drill sergeant or officer that has some ties to Delta, and someone from Delta may track that individual's career, but this is a long shot.  I read that the Soviets used to look for prospective Spetznaz candidates as early as high school, and would sometimes recruit from basic training, but since most Delta operators tend to be older than your average recruit I don't see them taking a serious look at very many nineteen year olds. 
 
Excuse my ignorance, but what the hell does CAG stand for?  I hadn't heard Delta referred to as that until I got on this site. 
 
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smitty237    As you were   3/9/2007 12:20:41 AM
Combat Applications Group.  Catchy title. 
 
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smitty237    As you were   3/9/2007 12:20:43 AM
Combat Applications Group.  Catchy title. 
 
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Old Grunt       3/9/2007 2:01:44 PM
"Since 9/11 the Army has allowed recruits to choose Special Forces as their primary MOS,..."
Actually that changed this past January.  In a message from USASOC to HRC it states "Experience showed us that our highest attrition in the 18X program was with 18 and 19 year old Soldiers:  we no longer accept them into the program."  This limits the number of  "off the street" candidates for CMF18
 
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GOP       3/9/2007 3:23:45 PM

"Since 9/11 the Army has allowed recruits to choose Special Forces as their primary MOS,..."

Actually that changed this past January.  In a message from USASOC to HRC it states "Experience showed us that our highest attrition in the 18X program was with 18 and 19 year old Soldiers:  we no longer accept them into the program."  This limits the number of  "off the street" candidates for CMF18


Probably a good policy change. Alot 18-19 year olds in the 18x program probably made their career choice based on watching a hollywood movie and playing video games. I don't know much about SFAS/Q course, but I know that it is tough enough to where a high level of dedication and motivation is required to make it through, which may be too much for your average 18 year old recruit.
 
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GOP       3/9/2007 3:26:04 PM

 
Excuse my ignorance, but what the hell does CAG stand for?  I hadn't heard Delta referred to as that until I got on this site. 

Combat Applications Group. I guess it's similar to DEVGRU (Developement group) for ST6.
Delta force seems too hollywoodesque to me lol, so I prefer CAG.

 
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Horsesoldier       3/9/2007 4:20:07 PM
CAG because, as other people have noted, 'Delta' had lost its mystique and become entirely too much public knowledge, Chuck Norris movies, etc.
 
They'll change the name again in a few years, I suspect, for the same reason.
 
Nobody is being taken straight out of basic training to OTC outside of video games and the internet.
 
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dirtykraut       3/9/2007 4:23:19 PM
I think the 18X contract was more for college grads, so they probably never accepted many 18 and 19 year olds to begin with. As for army SF experience and maturity go a long way. However I think it's a good thing that the SEALS have the challenge contract, because there really isn't anything like it in the Navy. However, I do see the point in trying to get recruits for tier 2 units young so there won't be any bad habits. But I wouldn't expect that from CAG, as they (atleast before I heard this rumour, and still do according to most people here) thrive on experienced and mature recruits.
 
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