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Subject: Anti-Semitism Backfires
SYSOP    5/25/2015 5:23:27 AM
 
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avatar3    Addendum   5/25/2015 7:36:46 AM
" Meanwhile the Jews fleeing Europe tend to be talented and well educated and their migration enriches Israel while impoverishing Europe.'c They also tend to be economic sophisticates bringing with them capital and wealth creating assets such as stocks and bonds, developmental research and international know how.
 
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Spiky    people & energy   5/25/2015 4:01:22 PM
"Israel has continued to experience the highest economic growth rate in the region."....... in addition to Jewish migration (their greatest asset always being their people), all the natural gas that Israel is currently finding an extracting is also going to greatly add to their economic growth and transform much of their infrastructure: making them much more independent of foreign energy.
 
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Spiky    energy protection   5/25/2015 4:14:31 PM
From: "The Times of Israel"... Title: "Israel and Germany sign deal for ships to guard gas rigs"... Subject: "$480 million sale of four Sa'ar-class corvettes agreed on 50th anniversary of German-Israeli relations."
 
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trenchsol       5/25/2015 11:42:16 PM
I wonder why Jews are abandoning their homes without a fight. I mean they could form some associations or organizations and demand their home countries to do something to protect them. I doubt that any country could just ignore that. In EU every citizen is supposed to be protected regardless of what current government feels about his/her country of origin.
 
 
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Nate Dog    lmfao   5/26/2015 4:52:10 AM
Sorry Trench
 
Idealists have been saying nonsense like that for some 3 millennia. 
Those are the jews that stayed behind in Germany in 1938. My great uncles and aunties for example, great grand parents, etc, The ones that are smart go elsewhere where slightly less barbaric men rule. 
 
It has ever been thus, i don't think mankind is far enough advanced that demanding a democratically elected government defend its constituents. Germany had a democratically elected government.

Essentially, Jews are the longest running eugenics experiment mankind has ever run. Every 2 to 3 generations, mankind goes on a mass cull and kills all the jews it can get its hands on, the ones that survive are the smart, the clairvoyant, the successful ones with resources. Many times the majority of jews have been culled from the population, the smart ones live. Repeat a few dozen times since around 1800 B.C. and we come to today. where 50% of all nobel prizes go to a minority accounting for 1/10 of 1% of the population of this planet. 
Turns out mankind's selective breeding program has delivered results. Hooray. Shame about all the innocent fuckers killed for praying to the wrong god. Or being born to the wrong parents.
 
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trenchsol       5/26/2015 10:40:49 AM
Then it is a very bad message sent. Many European countries have minorities, and they are not always on good terms with majority. The message sent is 'if you don't like them, hit them hard, you can get away with it'. Good to know.
 
 
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Nate Dog    The strong do what they will   5/26/2015 9:59:25 PM
the weak go to the wall.
 
It has ever been thus.
 
America does well with minorities, likely because its a polygot of minorities. 
Europe is constructed of ancient insular settlements, the vast majority are born, live and die within eye sight of the same church. They don't do well with anything foreign. The same is largely true of the middle east. Hence intolerance for 'anyone not our own'.

Change is coming, hopefully, but its a neivette man who believes that things are good enough now that people can do without a plan B.
 
 
 
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trenchsol       5/26/2015 10:19:50 PM
But, there are laws, local ones and EU regulations. Sometimes they do ridiculous things to protect someone who doesn't even know that he needs protection.
 
I remember, last year they arrested a guy because he was caught on camera while shouting insults to the homosexuals. He was not some skinhead, but 50 something guy.  I don't say its nice, but if someone shouted insults at me, well, nobody would care.
 
 
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Nate Dog    laws, right   5/27/2015 2:44:49 AM
In England, Edward 1st, not wanting to murder the jews of england, but at the same time not wanting any jews left in england,
Edict of expulsion, all Jews must not set foot on english soil, so they were gathered up, stuck on a boat, taken down the thames estuary, put on a sand bar at low tide, and waited for high tide to come deal with the problem....
 
What do laws matter? How truly civilised do you think any of our nations are? Bearing in mind that even the ones we consider the most civilised (the western world) have spent the majority of the last 100 years fighting one war or another, 2 of which have been the most devastating mankind has ever seen (lets face it, also the most formative, WW2 especially shaped the modern world into what it is, right down to ending segregation, ending subjugation of women, equal rights, etc).
 
 
 
 
 
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avatar3    The Law   5/27/2015 2:58:21 PM
The law is what the strong inflict on the weak until they themselves weaken or fall prey to a stronger force. Force is any leverage that can be applied to get a result. It used to be that only military force was considered but today force is also economic, technical and political. Some nations are powerful by reason of one of these items, few nations are like the US and are forces in many areas. Some nations, like China are coming force, or Russia deluding themselves into thinking themselves a force or Israel a regional force. But in all cases anyone entering an region must careful weigh those forces, because they (in that situation) may out weight you. In the Middle East we now have out in the open the continuation of an old religious war. It would behove the American government not to think that because they supply arms that they could be a force in this conflict. If the regional powers, that are powers, do nothing then the US should do nothing. Sometimes you have to say no. Jews are a good international indicators of how good a nation is doing. Jews leave when countries rot and go to countries where their is growth.
 
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