Well that would be a great thing but very unlikely.....and as I know Venezelos asked about union of Turkey and Greece in the past?

Yes, unlikely, but where large amounts of money are involved, possible. Oil  revenues could smooth over many old animosities and the venture itself could bring both countries closer together. It's easier to like someone if you are making money together and your lot is improving. Besides, this could lead to many other possibilities. My thinking was that it could be such a good thing for everyone concerned and that it is possible. As things stand now they may come to blows over oil rights in the Aegean.

 

I was not aware that Venizelos had asked about union with Turkey.  Why did he do that?

Well that would be a great thing but very unlikely.....and as I know Venezelos asked about union of Turkey and Greece in the past?

I have tried to find where Venizelos asked about a union with Turkey, but could not. Could you please direct me to your source? Thanks.

Kane: You made a statement but haven't backed it with anything yet. Anyway why would anything that Venizelos said, if he said it, (he died in 1936) have any bearing on todays situation?

I am aware of that..I don't have any solid proof.I just wanted mention that.If I can find a proof I'll put it here.If not it would have been good, what I heard was that Venizelos and Atatürk talked about a union(in a confedarative way)
It has nothing to do with today....and it would have been more possible back then though

Thanks for your reply.

You know, I think I picked a subject with little interest to the members. That's so unfortunate because peace is the flip side of war...the other side of the coin and no one seems interested in peace, just war.  I'm new, as you know, and I went back and reviewed many of the previous threads. Lots of unabashed hatred, name calling, whatever. I did not see one thread about peace. What's wrong with you people? Are you mostly very young and very nationalistic?

OK, thanks for an honest answer.

I guess I will have to find a war to take sides on because peace has no interest to anyone here. It's a shame but that is probably reality.

Kane, I'm 78 and as you will find out you will mellow as you get older. Your views on war will change too. Hate is not a good thing to grow. What possible good can come of hating?

I hope things change between Greece and Turkey because both sides would fight with fervor in a war and it would not be an easy win for anybody...if at all.

 

 

 

If you look at the demographics of Turkey you will see that it is an overwhelmingly young country (in terms of age of population). Given Kane's comments on young peoples attitude towards Greece, the chances of these countries becoming federated are less that a snowballs' in Hell.

It is unfortunate that people cannot see past their own emotions. Look at what oil money has done for the Arabs. Think what it could do for those two countries. Well, you can bring a horse to water, as the saying goes, but you cannot make him drink.
As an aside...I read where the Greeks are supporting Turkish entry into the EU. Is this an unfriendly act? I also read where they sent rescue units to Turkey during the earthquake...same thing?

Eagle,

I have a home in Turkey in one of the more Westernised regions. Even there, talk to any Turk of whatever age about Greece & the Greeks and what you get is animosity and distrust. For Turks, the old saying "beware Greeks bearing gifts" is as valid today as it has ever been.

Hereot,

The Trojan Horse was given to the Trojans, not the Turks, who were still wandering the Steppes at the time. I guess you mean the treachery involved...if that is even a proper word for it. It was war and they had been there for ten years already...hey it was time to go home. Tell me the Turks would have done it differently...if they thought about it. Anyway, I don't know why the Turks have so much animosity towards the Greeks. It was the Greeks, amomg others, who lived under very harsh Turkish rule for 400 years, not the Turks. If anyone should be angry, it's them.