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Subject: Turk Assassination of Hrant Dink
VelocityVector    1/19/2007 11:31:46 AM

One more voice silenced . . .

Turkish-Armenian writer shot dead

A well-known Turkish-Armenian editor convicted of insulting Turkish identity has been shot dead in Istanbul.

Hrant Dink, editor of newspaper Agos, was shot three times by an unknown gunman outside his offices.

Dink was given a six-month suspended sentence in October 2005 after writing about the Armenian "genocide" of 1915.

Turkey's NTV television said police were searching for a teenager wearing a white hat and a denim jacket in connection with the murder.

The channel showed pictures of a white sheet covering the journalist's body in front of the newspaper building's entrance.

Dink, 53, had received threats from nationalists who viewed him as a traitor, the Associated Press news agency reported.

He was one of Turkey's most prominent Armenian voices.

He once gave an interview with the Associated Press in which he cried while describing the hatred some Turks had for him, saying he could not stay in a country where he was unwanted.

Hundreds of thousands of Armenians died in 1915, in what many Armenians say was a systematic massacre at the hands of the Ottoman Turks.

Turkey denies any genocide, saying the deaths were a part of World War I.

Turkey and neighbouring Armenia still have no official relations.

Story from BBC NEWS:
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Published: 2007/01/19 15:03:59 GMT

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VelocityVector    Another View   1/19/2007 5:48:55 PM

<b>Turkish-Armenian Journalist Shot Dead</b>

ISTANBUL, Turkey, Jan. 19, 2007 (CBS/AP) A journalist who faced constant threats and protests as one of the most prominent voices of Turkey's shrinking Armenian community was shot to death Friday at the entrance to his newspaper's offices, police said.

Hrant Dink, a 53-year-old Turkish citizen of Armenian descent, had gone on trial numerous times for speaking out about the mass killings of Armenians by Turks at the beginning of the 20th century. He had also received threats from nationalists, who viewed him as a traitor.

In October 2005, he was convicted of trying to influence the judiciary after the bilingual Turkish-Armenian newspaper he edited, Agos, ran stories criticizing a law making it a crime to insult Turkey, the Turkish government or the Turkish national character.

He was given a six-month suspended sentence.

The conviction was rare even in a country where trials of journalists, academics and writers have become common. Most of the cases, including that of the Nobel Prize-winning novelist Orhan Pamuk, were either dropped on a technicality or led to acquittals.

Dink cried during an interview with The Associated Press last year as he talked about some of his countrymen's hatred for him, saying he could not stay in a country where he was unwanted.

"I'm living together with Turks in this country," Dink told the AP. "I don't think I could live with an identity of having insulted them in this country ... if I am unable to come up with a positive result, it will be honorable for me to leave this country."

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan condemned Dink's death as an attack against Turkey's unity and promised to catch those responsible.

Erdogan said two suspects had been arrested, but offered no details.

"Once again, dark hands have chosen our country and spilled blood in Istanbul to achieve their dark goals," Erdogan said at a news conference.

The prime minister said he had assigned top officials from the Justice Ministry to the case and that they were on their way to Istanbul from the capital, Ankara.

Can Dundar, Dink's friend and fellow journalist, said he wished Dink had left the country as he once promised he would in the face of the threats, protests and legal proceedings against him.

"Hrant's body is lying on the ground as if those bullets were fired at Turkey," Dundar told private NTV television.

Turkey's relationship with its Armenian community is fraught with tension and painful memories of a brutal past. Much of Turkey's once-sizeable Armenian population was killed or driven out of the country from 1915-1923 in what an increasing number of countries are recognizing as the first genocide of the 20th century.

Turkey acknowledges that large numbers of Armenians died but vehemently denies it was genocide, saying the overall figure is inflated and the deaths occurred in the civil unrest during the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.

Turkey, which is overwhelmingly Muslim, and Armenia, which claims to be the first country to official adopt Christianity, share a border, but it is closed and the two countries have no formal diplomatic relations.

Dink's body was covered with a white sheet in front of the newspaper's entrance. NTV said four empty shell casings were found on the ground and that he was killed by two bullets to the head.

Workers at the newspaper, including Dink's brother, who has also been put on trial in Turkey, wept and consoled each other near his body.

Fehmi Koru, a columnist at the Yeni Safak newspaper, said Dink's slaying was aimed at destabilizing Turkey. "His loss is the loss of Turkey," Koru said.

Dink had complained in a letter that he received no responses even after complaining to authorities about threats of violence made to him, NTV reported.

A colleague at Dink's newspaper, Aydin Engin, said Dink had attributed the threats to elements in the "deep state," a Turkish term that implies shadowy, deeply nationalist and powerful elements in the government.

© MMVII The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.

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kane       1/20/2007 1:52:41 PM
Who ever did that or who ever planned that is the biggest traitor
These dark stuff always happens at important times like these.Like the assasination of Ugur Mumcu

I think I'l be in the intellignce when I'm grown,this is really dark stuff

 
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kane       1/20/2007 2:05:12 PM
The worst thing is that it's really hard to expalin what this is
But it really saddens me that this
"hrant dink, who was convicted last year of insulting the turkish state, was assassinated outside his office."is true but wrong at the same time
 
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swhitebull    Not Too Hard to Explain at ALL - HE WAS AN INFIDEL   1/20/2007 4:50:19 PM
From Little Green Footballs:
Media Blackout: "I Shot the Non-Muslim"

The assassination of Turkish-Armenian writer Hrant Dink is being universally portrayed as ethnic strife, a political act by Turkish nationalists against an Armenian critic.

Call me Mr. Suspicious, but when I see the entire media monolith pushing an idea like that with so much enthusiasm, I start looking for the real explanation.

And the real explanation, as with so many of these media smokescreens, is jihad. Turkish-Armenian editor shot dead in Istanbul. (Hat tip: Paul.)

NTV television said Dink had been shot three times in the head and neck.

Muharrem Gozutok, a restaurant owner near the newspaper, said the assailant looked about 20, wore jeans and a cap and shouted “I shot the non-Muslim” as he left the scene.

This little piece of essential information is now being excised from all wire service and media reports.

You won’t find it in the latest version of the Reuters report above: Turkish-Armenian editor shot dead in Istanbul.

You won’t find it in the Associated Press version: Turkey Shocked by Slaying of Journalist.

You won’t find it at CNN: Journalist’s killing shocks Turkey.

You won’t find it in the Washington Post: Outspoken Editor Is Slain in Turkey.

You won’t find it in the Los Angeles Times: Journalist slain in Turkey.

And you sure won’t find it in the New York Times: Armenian Editor Is Slain in Turkey.

A video grab released by Turkish police shows an image of a man suspected of killing journalist Hrant Dink, one of Turkey’s most prominent ethnic Armenians, as the government came under fire for failing to protect him despite nationalist threats.

UPDATE at 1/20/07 11:35:18 am:

You will find it in the UK’s Telegraph, which also provides a slightly better translation: Turkish journalist who spoke up for Armenians is shot dead in the street.

Witnesses said the assailant was a teenager wearing a white cap and jeans. “He shouted ‘I shot the infidel’ as he ran away,” said Muharrem Gozutok, a restaurant owner.
 
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kane       1/20/2007 5:12:54 PM
Wow Swhitebull congratulations on finding another way to bash Islam

First of all no one in Turkey thinks this is a simple nationalist or extreme islamic guys attack
Most of the um...well educated people thinks this is something deeper just like assasination of Ugur Mumcu or other people who plays a lot with secrets
Some thinks this is a simple fascist(well these guys are currently happy of his death)
Some thinks he is  a simple extremereligious(cultist) guy who is aganist secularism.There were several attacks aganist secularism in the last 30 years
Some thinks this is done by outher powers to stop Turkey from joning EU or to make it lose prestige(well we sure lost)
Some thinks he is working for Armenia-the aim of the assasination was to show Turks as killers,to make us seem like we're killing people who do not agree us
or maybe it was because of other political reasons
These are all conspiracies but as I said it's not a simple thing

Since this not a good thing for Turkey at all,a person who loves this country WOULDN'T do such a thing

Oh and no one in Turkey(except fascists-low number) is happy because of this
We lost a democracy defender

And the way media shows this to world,well it's urely wrong or details are wrong!


 
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kane       1/20/2007 5:16:06 PM
BTW again everbody is suspicious about the real killer
Maybe they just caught the wrong guy to hide something
or maybe it was simply a brainwashed kid(actually he is 1 year older than me)

 
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swhitebull    Occam's Razor   1/20/2007 5:55:01 PM

Wow Swhitebull congratulations on finding another way to bash Islam

First of all no one in Turkey thinks this is a simple nationalist or extreme islamic guys attack
Most of the um...well educated people thinks this is something deeper just like assasination of Ugur Mumcu or other people who plays a lot with secrets
Some thinks this is a simple fascist(well these guys are currently happy of his death)
Some thinks he is  a simple extremereligious(cultist) guy who is aganist secularism.There were several attacks aganist secularism in the last 30 years
Some thinks this is done by outher powers to stop Turkey from joning EU or to make it lose prestige(well we sure lost)
Some thinks he is working for Armenia-the aim of the assasination was to show Turks as killers,to make us seem like we're killing people who do not agree us
or maybe it was because of other political reasons
These are all conspiracies but as I said it's not a simple thing

Since this not a good thing for Turkey at all,a person who loves this country WOULDN'T do such a thing

Oh and no one in Turkey(except fascists-low number) is happy because of this
We lost a democracy defender

And the way media shows this to world,well it's urely wrong or details are wrong!



Thank you  - it was fairly easy. And speaking of simple, the most obvious or simplest reason is usually the correct one.
swhitebull -  not rocket science here, or what about "I SHOT THE INFIDEL" do you not understand?
 
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kane       1/20/2007 6:16:14 PM
Well since you do not live in Turkey I can not explain these to you
Turkey is a multicultural and multireligious country
The people living in Turkey calls themselves Turks,just like me.We speak Turkish and we have Turkish cultures
But ethnically we're not Turks.I mean not 100/100 percent
for e.g I'm a mixture of Turk,Rum(Byzantine),Persian and Bulgarian
Just look at USA,is there a race called American?no but they're together
Just like us,the real Turks are in central asia

Anyway there are people from various religions in this country
No one kills them
The reason of this assasination is DEFINETLY not religion.You do not know this country,no one kills other because of their beliefs(there are exceptions of course)


and don't beleve everything you hear,althought it maybe right I haven't heard anything like"kafiri vurdum(i shot the infidel)"
Actually it is though that this guy is from an organisation which is aganist secularism
Another guy from this org has killed a high ranking secular government guy last year

But there is not point in killing this guy for religion.I believe it was for destroying Turkeys reputation or maybe for helping Armenians for more support
Or maybe these are communist seperatist Kurds(PKK) who wants to destory the union

 
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swhitebull       1/20/2007 6:20:18 PM

Well since you do not live in Turkey I can not explain these to you
Turkey is a multicultural and multireligious country
The people living in Turkey calls themselves Turks,just like me.We speak Turkish and we have Turkish cultures
But ethnically we're not Turks.I mean not 100/100 percent
for e.g I'm a mixture of Turk,Rum(Byzantine),Persian and Bulgarian
Just look at USA,is there a race called American?no but they're together
Just like us,the real Turks are in central asia

Anyway there are people from various religions in this country
No one kills them
The reason of this assasination is DEFINETLY not religion.You do not know this country,no one kills other because of their beliefs(there are exceptions of course)


and don't beleve everything you hear,althought it maybe right I haven't heard anything like"kafiri vurdum(i shot the infidel)"
Actually it is though that this guy is from an organisation which is aganist secularism
Another guy from this org has killed a high ranking secular government guy last year

But there is not point in killing this guy for religion.I believe it was for destroying Turkeys reputation or maybe for helping Armenians for more support
Or maybe these are communist seperatist Kurds(PKK) who wants to destory the union


Well, we might be related then -  some family on mother's side came from Khazakstan, 140 years ago -  ethnic Turks that had converted to Judaism milllenia ago, around the 700s. Also, Rum here (Rumanian), Polish, Russian, Czech and German.
 
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kane       1/20/2007 6:54:44 PM
Those Judaist Turks are Khazars
Khazaks are Turkic yes ture

Rum(Roman) meant Anatolia.2.Mehmed declared himself Kayzer-i Rum after taking Istanbul.It means Roman emperor
.Romanians are different but there are many Romanians in Turkey either

 
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swhitebull    Followup to Coverup   1/21/2007 3:07:43 PM
 
From LittleGreenFootballs.com: 
Media Blackout Continues: "I Shot the Infidel"

The media are still pushing the “Turkish nationalist” angle in the assassination of Armenian editor Hrant Dink, as if “Turkish nationalism” were completely unconnected to its Islamic roots: Teen ‘shot editor for insulting Turks’.

AN unemployed teenager has told investigators he shot dead editor Hrant Dink because he had insulted Turks, it was reported today.

Police caught Ogun Samast, 17, carrying a gun at a bus station in the Black Sea coastal town of Samsun overnight, a day after the Turkish-Armenian Dink was shot in broad daylight outside his newspaper office in Istanbul.

“I read on the Internet that he (Dink) said ‘I am from Turkey but Turkish blood is dirty’ and I decided to kill him ... I do not regret this,” CNN Turk quoted Samast as saying.

Why do I have this sneaking suspicion that Samast’s statements are not being fully reported?

As we noted yesterday, initial stories about the shooting included a quote from an eyewitness who said Samast had shouted, “I shot the infidel!” Reuters themselves had this quote, but it was edited out of later versions.

Here’s an interesting little experiment with Google News, which indexes many of the world’s media outlets (legitimate, illegitimate, and insane).

A search for the murdered editor’s name returns more than 1,300 results: hrant dink - Google News.

But a search for “I shot the non-Muslim” (as Reuters originally reported it) returns only 21 results, all early reports in Australian or other non-US sources: 'i shot the non-muslim' - Google News.

And a search for “I shot the infidel” returns ... 2 results, both to the same article at the Telegraph: 'i shot the infidel' - Google News.

Note that I’m not claiming the shooting was strictly for purposes of jihad. Samast obviously was motivated to some extent by Dink’s remarks criticizing Turkey for the Armenian jihad/genocide.

But on the other hand, there seems to be a universal agreement among the wire services and major US newspapers to ignore the eyewitness’s quote?even editing it out of later versions of the same article.

It’s a whitewash.

And here’s another early version of the Reuters report, with the quote, still posted at their Canadian web site: Turkish-Armenian editor shot dead in Istanbul.

NTV television said Dink, a Turkish citizen of Armenian descent, had been shot three times in the head and neck.

Muharrem Gozutok, owner of a restaurant near the Agos office, said the assailant looked about 20, wore jeans and a cap and shouted “I shot the non-Muslim” as he left the scene.

If the quote was mis-reported, the context is important enough that I’d expect articles to contain something like this: “Early reports that the attacker shouted ‘I shot the non-Muslim’ were unverified.”

Instead, the quote simply vanished.

UPDATE at 1/21/07 10:51:21 am:

Support for the jihad angle, from a Turkish web site: Police identify suspected killer of Turkish journalist. (Hat tip: Abu Maven.)

Police have identified the suspected killer of journalist Hrant Dink, acting on a tip from the suspect’s father, private NTV television reported Saturday. A police official speaking on condition of anonymity confirmed that police were seeking a man by the name of Ogun Samas, but would not give further information.

Samas was reportedly from the Black Sea city of Trabzon. A photograph, allegedly of Samas holding a gun while running away from Dink after the attack Friday, had been released to the public. Istanbul Gov. Muammer Guler said Dink’s secretary also had identified the man in the photograph as the same man who had entered the newspaper’s office and requested a meeting with Dink around noon on the day he was killed.

The suspect allegedly said he was a student at Ankara University. NTV reported that the suspect’s father and 10 other people were detained by police in Trabzon.

It said Samas was friends with Yasin Hayal, a young man charged in 2004 with bombing a McDonald’s restaurant in Trabzon. Hayal was alleged to be an Islamic militant and said he learned to make bombs from Chechen militants at a camp in Azerbaijan. The bomb injured six passers-by and was apparently an attack aimed at punishing the United States.

And in today’s New York Times, more evidence of jihad (although the Times doesn’t connect the dots): Turkish Police Arrest Teenage Suspect in Editor’s Killing.

The police are also looking into possible links between Mr. Samast and the killing of a Catholic priest, Andrea Santaro, last February. The assailant was a 16-year-old who, like the priest and Mr. Samast, was from Trabzon.

(Father Andrea Santaro was murdered during the height of the Danish cartoon madness, and his killer shouted “Allahu Akbar!”)

UPDATE at 1/21/07 10:57:35 am:

At AFP, an article (in which the I word and the M word do not appear) indirectly acknowledges Samast is a Muslim: Turkish teenager confesses to killing journalist.

I shot him after saying the Friday prayers. I’m not sorry,” the CNN Turk news channel quoted him as saying in his testimony.
 
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kane       1/22/2007 9:30:16 AM
Yes now it is more official
Ogün Samast is from a religious organisation called "nizam-i alem"
It seems like this is done by anti-secularism guys-
The guy who shot the priest last year had a GLOCK gun,it is still disccused in here since that weapons is forbidden and very expensive.how could that boy afford it?
Again last year a high ranking lawyer(not lawyer the other guy for got the word) was shot by a guy from this "nizam-i alem" thing.

OR

it is done by government to affect next president elections.Because of the increasing religious problems R.Tayyp Erdogan will be accused and his chance of becoming president will get lower-and thats a good thing

We still do not know(and probably won't learn) if this is a simple assasination or a well-organized dark job


 
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Scratchie    swhitebull   1/23/2007 10:42:52 AM
swhitebull,
 
A Turkish citizen who is in fairly good health (mentally, physically and socially) would NEVER put her country in jeapardy. I am not saying it was planned by Armenians or anyone else who hates Turkiye, but that guy is only what 17, 18? He is brainwashed, isn't it obvious? And why is it fishy for him to get caught so quick? His father was smart enough to hand him to the police even though that was his own son. That was the right thing to do so he did it.
 
Read this:
  link
 
"January 12, 2007: Greek terrorists fired an RPG-7 at the US embassy in Athens. A group called "Revolutionary Struggle" claimed responsibility for the attack. The Greek government said that the organization is a left wing faction. The rocket-propelled grenade slammed into a third-floor bathroom. No one was hurt. Every time something like this happens the Greek government thinks of " November 17", the terrorist-anarchist gang that launched attacks throughout Greece but often targeted American targets. Greek police and intelligence services made a concerted effort to destroy the " November 17" gang prior to the 2004 Olympics."
 
Why isn't this made a big deal? Those Greek terrorists don't represent the whole population.
 
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MaviTengriYurt       1/31/2007 1:35:58 PM
Indeed, this is an extreme Islamic guy. However,I don't think Samast represents your religion. He represents political Islam. It's a sick colonial infiltrating ideology which, as a Turk, you should be first to criticize. That's protecting your religion. I know people in the West often don't make the distinction. You may get mad at them for this, but ultimately I believe you should target the source, political Islamism, which is a vehicle trough which the sick colonial concepts are infiltrating in Turkey. 'I shot the infidel' is typical colonially brutalized, barbarized and arabized Middle Eastern mentality. Ultimately it would be nice if the Middle East at large would be cured, because then we would be surrounded by better countries.
Wow Swhitebull congratulations on finding another way to bash Islam

First of all no one in Turkey thinks this is a simple nationalist or extreme islamic guys attack
Most of the um...well educated people thinks this is something deeper just like assasination of Ugur Mumcu or other people who plays a lot with secrets
Some thinks this is a simple fascist(well these guys are currently happy of his death)
Some thinks he is  a simple extremereligious(cultist) guy who is aganist secularism.There were several attacks aganist secularism in the last 30 years
Some thinks this is done by outher powers to stop Turkey from joning EU or to make it lose prestige(well we sure lost)
Some thinks he is working for Armenia-the aim of the assasination was to show Turks as killers,to make us seem like we're killing people who do not agree us
or maybe it was because of other political reasons
These are all conspiracies but as I said it's not a simple thing

Since this not a good thing for Turkey at all,a person who loves this country WOULDN'T do such a thing

Oh and no one in Turkey(except fascists-low number) is happy because of this
We lost a democracy defender

And the way media shows this to world,well it's urely wrong or details are wrong!




 
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kane       1/31/2007 5:15:17 PM
that post was before when I was thinking big :)
Anyway you're right

 
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