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Final Historian RE:Turkey v Iran 5/6/2003 12:49:15 AM

All things being equal, Turkey. I don't know much about equipment and training, but leadership is on Turkey's side. The Mullahs promote people who are loyal, not neccessarily people who are good at their job. Turkey, being a secular democracy, has a much more merit based system. This means that on the small unit level Turkey would have a strong advantage. Of course there is more, but I don't know as much about the equipment Turkey and Iran use, except that Iran uses a lot of old Soviet stuff.

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Yank2003 RE:Turkey v Iran 5/6/2003 11:43:13 AM

Turkey is US backed with their weaponry. If I remember right, they use M-60s for MBTs which would beat out most of Irans dated T-62s and T-72s (if they even have those?). Turkey would probally win unless the Mullahs somehow incited a popular war against them and declared a jihad or something against Turkey.

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Phoenix Rising RE:Turkey v Iran 5/6/2003 12:14:40 PM

Turkey and Iran would be a pretty tough match, and I think the advantage would simply go to whoever happened to be defending. Their populations and GDP's are almost identical; Turkey would nominally have the technological and leadership advantage but it would be nowhere near the disparity found between American and Iraq, let alone Afghanistan. In the long term, even barring NATO involvement, my money would be on Turkey, but it would be a heck of a war. Obviously, Turkey being a member of NATO makes it essentially a moot point. Not even France could sit by and watch Iran attack Turkey without doing anything (and even if they did, Britain and America wouldn't let it slide, and they're the real powers in the alliance). --Phoenix Rising

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Yank2003 RE:Turkey v Iran 5/6/2003 12:23:55 PM

Ok, here we go.. Armed forces Turkey - 500,000 Active Iran - 535,000 Active MBTs Turkey - 3,500 (M-60s, M-48s, Leopard 1A1s) Iran - 1,500 (M-48s, M-60s, Scorpions, T-72s) APCs Turkey - 4,500 (M113, BTR-80) Iran - 550 (BMP-2s) Artillery Turkey - 2,200 (MLRS, S/P, Towed) Iran - 3,000 (MRS, S/P, Towed) Air Force Turkey - 600 (F-16s, F-4s, F-5s) Iran - 300 (F-4s, F-5s, SU-24, Mig-29s) For the most part, it would seem as though Turkey has a slight upper hand. Throw in the fact that about 75% of Irans equipment it bought from western nations does not work anymore due to lack of parts puts Turkey at a much greater advantage.

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SGTObvious RE:Turkey v Iran 5/6/2003 12:30:31 PM

Look at the terrain seperating the two. Unless an offensive was accompanying a mass uprising on the other side- Kurds in Turkey, Azerbaijanis in Iran, or maybe just pissed off Iranians in Iran, neither nation could get very far into the other. But Turkey has the better overall forces. And US support.

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Thomas RE:Turkey v Iran 5/23/2003 8:36:33 AM

Turkey is not really worried about Iran. With Iraq out of the equation, the main worry is Syria. Turkey actually threatned Syria with war if they kept harbouring terrorist. Syria shoved APO off to Greece (Yunanistan) and the greeks probably tipped the turks off. The most encouraging is the way Greece and Turkey seem to ease their mutual distrust.

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demirturk RE:Turkey v Iran 9/11/2003 8:36:43 AM

They are both warrior nations and both have long ruling histories.Their history is full of wars between each other. Both nations are proud and ferocious.Their armed forces are matching each other and iran has a good, improving military industry.Although Turkey has one too in a smaller scale.If a war is declared between these two nations whatever the out come would be, it will change the whole middle east.I am a Turk and I would want to say that we would be victorious but Iran is the only country in middle east to have the chance to beat Turkey.

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Thomas RE:Turkey v Iran demirturk 9/11/2003 9:19:32 AM

I'd say: You are probably right. A history of warfare is not necessarily an indication of present strenght. I've tried to make this point i a clumsy way by pointing to the fact that Denmark once ruled England and the Americas.

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Irvinevalley RE:Turkey v Iran 9/23/2003 5:42:14 PM

I would not imagine a war between Turkey and Iran.

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swhitebull RE:Turkey v Iran 1/13/2004 1:03:28 PM

..turkey is one nation one race one religion... I admire your loyalty to your country, but your fervor sounds like a bit of Germany in the late 1930's. You might want to tone things down a bit on these boards. btw - what IS the most modern tank currently in use by Turkey? and fighter? swhitebull

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Balthor RE:Turkey v Iran 2/5/2004 6:53:43 PM

I have to agree with SGTObvious when it comes to the terrain and geographic border locations. It would be like watching snails wrestle. Iran's weapons program is quite a bit rusty - in the literal sense. Turkey has the F-16 and some pretty good pilots. But Turkey's biggest drawback in any confrontation would be its politicians. Since the death of Ataturk, Turkey has been known to side-step confrontations. But let's not forget the contribution Turkey made to the Korean conflict. Outstanding fighters! But since those glory days, Turkey has stuck by it's foreign policy "Peace at home, peace in the world." Due to the corruption within its political boundries, "Peace at home" is but a faraway dream. Turkey does not contain the finances that would allow them to dedicate a force of troops to its own intervention of sorts; hence American defence contributions. When it comes to Syria... Turkey and Syria signed a 'No-war' treaty with each other a few years ago. To this day it's beyond me as to why, because Turkey and Israel have become staunch allies economically and militarily. Syria has also become a strong enclave for militant training and support for Kurdish separatist.

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johnyturc RE:Turkey v Iran 3/3/2004 2:34:45 AM

Usualy piece of cake .....:) AS ALWAYS ISN IT....PERSIAN KITTY:)

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delete RE:Turkey v Iran 3/4/2004 1:09:36 AM

My money would be on the defensive side as well - both countries have formidable defensive structures but not so expeditionary forces. Turkeys expeditionary capabilites easily outscore Irans, but Irans chief defensive weapon would be its people, the average shmoe who works down the local garage, has a wife, 2.4 children and an AK47 in the cupboard waiting for some foreign bastard to set foot in his neigborhood. Iran would never succed in an invasion or even an air assault against Turkey, but if Turkey were to attack Iran it could get interesting. They would have to be very careful to avoid that average shmoe and limit the war to a quick air assault.

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icetea RE:Turkey v Iran 12/2/2004 12:37:40 AM

Very true.

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icetea RE:Turkey v Iran 12/2/2004 12:39:09 AM

f-16 and upgraded m60 tanks from isreal. close to 4000 tanks and able to repair in the field.

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