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Subject: Is there reason for Russia to be nervous?
RaptorZ    3/5/2007 8:27:32 PM
My thoughts on Russia is this, if they weren't so hell bent on being the voice against the US and NATO they'd be with us....so does this article surprise anyone? Are they creating fear that need not be there? What is the motive for their stance? ------------------- MOSCOW (AFP) - Russia's bomber force would have no trouble destroying planned US missile defense sites in Europe, its head said Monday as the country's security council warned of new policies to counter NATO. ADVERTISEMENT "Since the components of the anti-missile defence system are weakly protected, all types of our aircraft are capable of using electronic countermeasures against them and physically destroying them," Interfax news agency quoted Lieutenant General Igor Khvorov as saying. The Kremlin has fiercely protested US plans to install an anti-missile system in Poland and the Czech Republic. Washington insists it would not be aimed at Russia but designed to counter attacks from countries such as Iran and North Korea. Khvorov also said Russia is modernizing its fleet of Tu-160 strategic bombers, with two updated versions of the aircraft expected to be ready this year. Known as Blackjack to the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, the Tu-160 is a highly manoeuvrable supersonic strategic bomber. Meanwhile the national security council said Russia is to adopt a new military doctrine in response to the "strengthening" of NATO forces, in the latest sign of worsening relations between the two sides. "The analysis of the international situation shows that recourse to military force is increasingly the policy of leading world states," the council said in an announcement that the new doctrine was in preparation. "The military policy of the principal countries devotes more and more energy to the modernisation of the armed forces," including updating their weapons technology and strategies, it said. "Military alliances are strengthening, and especially NATO," the Russian security council claimed. "Armed forces are being used above all as a principal instrument for pursuing the economic and political interests of countries" in the West, it said. The council statement echoed hard-hitting speeches by Russian President Vladimir Putin last month. In Moscow on February 22 Putin warned, "We are encountering a dangerous disdain for international law, ambitions to use military force to achieve personal interests," in what appeared to be a veiled reference to the United States. His comments came less than two weeks after he made a full-frontal assault on US foreign policy in a speech in Munich, saying the United States had "overstepped its borders in all spheres."
 
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displacedjim       3/5/2007 9:38:42 PM

My thoughts on Russia is this, if they weren't so hell bent on being the voice against the US and NATO they'd be with us....so does this article surprise anyone? Are they creating fear that need not be there? What is the motive for their stance?

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MOSCOW (AFP) - Russia's bomber force would have no trouble destroying planned US missile defense sites in Europe, its head said Monday as the country's security council warned of new policies to counter NATO.

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"Since the components of the anti-missile defence system are weakly protected, all types of our aircraft are capable of using electronic countermeasures against them and physically destroying them," Interfax news agency quoted Lieutenant General Igor Khvorov as saying.

The Kremlin has fiercely protested US plans to install an anti-missile system in Poland and the Czech Republic. Washington insists it would not be aimed at Russia but designed to counter attacks from countries such as Iran and North Korea.

Khvorov also said Russia is modernizing its fleet of Tu-160 strategic bombers, with two updated versions of the aircraft expected to be ready this year.



Wow, I guess Russians can sleep easier now that they know they have a couple Tu-160s that could destroy the proposed European anti-ballistic missile defense.  After all, if left unchecked that defense could possibly prevent several Russian RVs from a couple of their ICBMs from incinerating millions of Europeans... until a couple minutes later when Russia launched some of the rest of their several hundred ICBMs armed with over 1000 RVs and fried those Europeans anyway.  Yup, those Tu-160s will prevent those Europeans from living an extra two minutes.  Hooray for the Kremlin!  Hooray for the Motherland!

 
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Herc the Merc    Raptor Russia is upset because   3/5/2007 9:46:17 PM
the US will soon have ability to wipe out entire Russian missile inventory at a whim. The Russians can no longer afford to pay to maintain the massive ICBM and IRBM stock. One estimate put it at probably 500 or less in 20 years. You will probably have enough technology in the XBOX23 to target those sirtes via GOOGLEEARTH. Of course they are upset -because we can spank 'em anytime we want.
 
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tigertony    Putin whinning about NATO?   3/6/2007 8:39:05 AM
 
   Well now i guess it is allright for Mr Putin to turn the Russian Federation back to the USSR? Afterall, that is what his own people he just ruthlessly crushed with his Gestapo stated!. So since Mr Putin wants to bring back the good ole day's of Stalin and Kruschev "I guess NATO will continue the same job it has been doing for over 50 years!". Yes i bet NATO turns off the gas when they don't get what they want from puppets? Well we all know Mr Putin will!. I would suggest a man who spent most of his life trying to destroy the US and NATO stop whinning because they continue to treat him accordingly!. If he want's the new USSR all over again "Then NATO should keep him in that box in a corner like the rat he is!".
 
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McDohl       3/6/2007 11:27:38 AM
I belive that Russia is heading towards the direction of the SCO, to make it a powerfull player on the planet, Already the SCO is taking its baby steps to become a strong organization, and with countrys like India, Iran and Pakistan as observer states who might join the SCO in later years will just make this Alliance all the more powerfull, and besides who ealse would stand up to the mighty US tell me please....Germany yah, France yah, .....SPAIN? no I dont think so, Russia is also making a new military doctrine. This should be interesting as to what kind of doctrine it will be, a more aggresive one to further help China swalow Taiwan?
 
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Herc the Merc    SCO   3/6/2007 12:06:59 PM
I doubt India would join SCO as it is perceived as an ant-America alliance. As such INdia has no gripes with the US and
will function in SCO as UK does in EU.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       3/6/2007 12:14:17 PM
The last time Russia entered a non-aggression pact/military treaty it was invaded a few years later (w/ Germany).  Russia won't let its guard down again.  The SCO simply provides leverage against US political ambition and Russia can wave its fists in the air against our missile defense system, but we are helping them with their own behind closed doors.
 
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McDohl       3/7/2007 11:56:42 AM
Well about India. Why would India not join? if the SCO offers great things for it ofcourse it will join, just mabey not now but later on. This does not have to do with showing that India is Anti-American. It just wishes to pursue its own goals. About Russia, yes it was invaded by Germany but Russia also knew that it would be invaded they needed time to stall the Germans. Besides who would invade it now China....I dont think so.....do I have to get into detail?
 
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scuttlebut steve    author lives in alternate universe   3/9/2007 2:41:44 AM
back to the article I must say that the only thing more stupid than russia showing fear of a missile defense system that can stop maybe 1-2% of their ICBMs is the Idea of using the dozen or so blackjacks to take out the sites first.  It would be more economically feasable and faster for them to use up the defenses with a miniscule percentage of the overly large ICBM fleet than to risk the few relatively modern bombers they have....and why would they think that they will be in position to launch nukes on europe without assuring their own total destruction anyways?
 
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RaptorZ       3/9/2007 9:45:31 AM
It's almost as if they know they can overload the system, but what I think they're saying is Iran, pay us and we can take out the system to allow YOUR missiles through....b/c as you state, of course they can overload it, that's a no brainer...
 
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