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Subject: C'mon People!!!!
ArtyEngineer    1/21/2009 9:02:16 PM
No topic here, just refuse to allow the "King of Battle" to languish in the bottom 5 discussion boards along with "Dictionary of Military Terms" etc!!!! My fellow redlegs should be ashamed!!!!!!
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doggtag    you're our resident expert as far as this thread goes....   1/22/2009 10:19:32 AM give us some new/good news to start talking about!
I myself haven't seen anything recently new and fascinating enough to go off all barking about and such
(at least not as far as artillery is concerned).
Yesterday alone I found myself digging thru scores of years-old pdfs on such goodies as the LEO105/LAV program, UDLP'S BAE's V²C² gun, PGK fuze developments, and numerous other land-based 155mm developments from 3, 4, even 5 or more years ago.
(...sigh, I'm still waiting for Denel to announce a LEO 105 artillery turret trialled on somebody's, anybody's, tracked AFV chassis (has to include pics)...better yet, as a new deck gun for naval FACs and corvettes...
Also throw in there qualification tests proving the PGK fuzes will work on the 24-30km ranged IGALA ammunition family with the higher perfomances from the LEO gun....yeah, yeah, I know: Christmas ain't for almost another year...) 
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Heorot       1/22/2009 3:38:20 PM
This is the most recent artillery news that I could find. It's from Janes Defence.

China North Industries Corporation (NORINCO) has completed the development of a new 122 mm full-tracked self-propelled howitzer (SPH) called the SH3, which is now being offered on the export market.

The artillery system is based on a new full-tracked chassis, with the driver seated front left, to the right of a diesel powerpack, leaving the remainder of the chassis clear for the fighting compartment. Suspension is of the torsion bar type with six dual-rubber-tyre road wheels, drive sprocket at the front, idler at the rear and track return rollers.

At the rear of the chassis the fully enclosed turret is armed with a 122 mm ordnance fitted with a fume extractor and muzzle brake. The turret traverses a full 360 degrees, with weapon elevation from -3 to +70 degrees. This fires standard 122 mm D-30 separate loading (projectile and charge) ammunition.

The standard 122 mm high-explosive (HE) projectile has a maximum range of 17,000 m; other natures include smoke and illuminating rounds.

NORINCO is now marketing a new family of 122 mm separate loading ammunition, which also includes an HE base bleed (BB) rocket-assist projectile Type BEE2, HE hollow base (HB) and HE BB projectile. Maximum ranges are 27,000 m, 18,000 m and 22,000 m respectively.
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doggtag    hey, it's better than nothing!   1/22/2009 9:41:20 PM
I remember quite a few projects from the 1980s-1990s timeframe that were western defense contractors promoted various designs for 122mm users who didn't want the expense of discarding their post-Warsaw Pact ammo inventories....
A 27km shell, not bad.
Accuracy must be god-awful though (chinese copies and minor improvements over Soviet/Russian designs?).
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Carl S       1/25/2009 8:42:23 AM
I've had severe problems getting this site to accept text from me lately.  The workarounds are hardly worth the trouble.  Even before this difficulty emerged several other severely anoying problems were chronic.  Slow, buggy, to many cookies,  spam following each visit.  The sysop is not on top of things here.  Thats reflected in the simple minded fluff the sysop routinely clutters the pages with and  a lack of attention to trolls, flame wars, and spam  inserted in the discussion threads.  The page format is more taxing that ususall on my eyes & it fatigue or pain come much sooner on this site than most others.  Not worth my time to read or post here.
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ArtyEngineer    Carl S   1/25/2009 2:03:03 PM
You have been noticable by your absence!!!!  Its a shame that Sysop doesnt seem to be as on the ball as they should regarding members concerns with the buggyness of this site.
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ArtyEngineer    At last something worth posting   1/27/2009 4:01:08 PM
New Metreological Data gathering and dissemination gear.
Link below:
Continuous realtime updates to teh MET Message could have very significant impact on first round accuracy!!!!
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