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Subject: Estimated Israeli War Losses
mithradates    8/19/2006 12:40:20 AM
I'm not sure if the source for these numbers are reliable because quite frankly both sides of the conflict have been lying through their teeth. But here is the supposed losses suffered by Israel. IDF casualties : 120 soldiers ranked KIA and more than 2000 WIA IDF equipement destroyed or heavily damaged by Hezbollah: 120 Merkava series tanks 30 armored vehicles (APC, armored engineering vehicles...) 1 Saeer 5 ship 1 Saeer 4.5 ship 3 Apache helicopters 1 F16 fighter 1 MK drone
 
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kane    RE:Estimated Israeli War Losses   8/19/2006 5:52:45 AM
120 Merkava ??? WoW thats a high number.Even heavily damaged is a big thing.Even APCs are less than Merkava although they're weaker.
 
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mithradates    RE:Estimated Israeli War Losses   8/19/2006 10:54:59 AM
I don't know the truthfulness of this. CCTV6 showed it during one of their military round table discussions, so these numbers must have some credibility. In anycase, it would appear that the IDF has been badly mauled by it's undersized opponent.
 
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8486cofe    RE:Estimated Israeli War Losses   8/19/2006 10:59:56 AM
Merveka losses quite possible. As of late last year it was reported that 8% of M1's deployed to Iraq (XS of 1k deployed) had to be returned stateside for repairs. The US guys would be better informed on this.
 
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displacedjim    RE:Estimated Israeli War Losses   8/19/2006 11:02:04 AM
Well, what's with the supposed F-16 lost/damaged? How could Hezballah even touch one? And when did a Saar 4.5 get touched? As for the Saar 5, I wouldn't call it heavily damaged; basically it took one moderately-damaging hit to the helicopter hangar. Displacedjim
 
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jaythehistorian    RE:Estimated Israeli War Losses   8/19/2006 11:29:57 AM
What are the source of these figures? This is just wishful thinking on the part of antisemites. I refer all to the "Attrition: Losses in Lebanon" article of 8/19/06 on this website.
 
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mithradates    RE:Estimated Israeli War Losses   8/19/2006 3:25:00 PM
"Well, what's with the supposed F-16 lost/damaged? How could Hezballah even touch one?" Not sure. "And when did a Saar 4.5 get touched?" The Hezbollah "supposedly" mission killed a Saar 4.5 according to a military analyst on CCTV. But the only evidence that we have is that 1 of the Saar 4.5s deployed along the Lebanese coast and was suddenly pulled back to Israel for repairs last week. As for the Saar 5, nobody has seen a photo of the damaged ship, the IDF is not releasing any images, so the level of damage suffered by the ship can only be speculated, however what is fact is that both the Saar 5 and Saar 4.5 ships were mission killed.
 
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mithradates    RE:Estimated Israeli War Losses   8/19/2006 3:29:49 PM
"What are the source of these figures? This is just wishful thinking on the part of antisemites. I refer all to the "Attrition: Losses in Lebanon" article of 8/19/06 on this website. " These figures were mentioned on a round table discussion concerning the middle eastern war on CCTV. You can call it propaganda if you will, but from the articles that I've read on this war from both sides and based on the past credibility of such panel discussions, I'm thinking that those numbers are pretty close to the true picture.
 
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mithradates    misinformation and propaganda from all sides   8/19/2006 8:30:20 PM
Official tank loss numbers from the Israeli side: 21 Merkavas killed/heavily damaged This figure is so absurd and such an obvious lie that it's being contradicted by the IDF soldiers themselves and by the Hezbollah and reuters photos and videos of destroyed damaged Merkavas in the war. Official tank loss numbers from Hezbollah ~270 Merkavas destroyed/heavily damaged This is clearly a hash induced fantasy. Since the IDF deployed ~600 Merkavas into Lebanon, and there's no possible way that they suffered 45% mission kills. I really can't accept the numbers from either side since there seems to be more propaganda than fact. Now some third parties: 1. The Iranian IRNG is reporting ~170 Merkavas killed/heavily damaged 2. The US Stratfor is reporting ~120 Merkavas killed/heavily damaged 3. The CCTV is reporting ~150 Merkavas killed/heavily damaged 4. The Japanese Kanwa is reporting ~110 Merkavas killed/heavily damaged So I'm going to tentatively assume that the Israeli suffered mission kills on some 130-140 Merkavas out of the 600 deployed. So a loss rate of 23%.
 
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YelliChink    RE:Estimated Israeli War Losses - jaythehistorian   8/19/2006 9:45:46 PM
CCTV6 is 6th channel of Chinese Central TV company, which is owned and operating by Chinese Communist Party. CCTV, along with Xinhua News Agency and People's Daily are all standing behind the Party of Allah and Palestinian terrorrist groups to denigrate Israel in past decades.
 
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Yimmy    RE:Estimated Israeli War Losses - jaythehistorian   8/19/2006 9:56:08 PM
I to am interested in how the F16 was destroyed, if indeed it was. Perhaps a lucky rocket? I remember a little while ago in Afghanistan an RAF Harrier was destroyed on the ground (so much for the RAF regiment...).
 
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