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Subject: US Secret Chemical Weapon
Carl S    4/6/2006 9:56:40 PM
Is caffine the real secret the US military, economic, & global domination? Is it really the tens of thousands of liters of mediocre coffe consumed each day by the US military that gives it the ultimate edge? If an enemy were to cut off the coffe supply to a US Army brigade would the US soldiers collapse in demoralized confusion?

Is that why the Brits could not sustain theirr empire, because they drank inferior tea? Or that the Europeans could not get off the dime? Because they imbibed drinks like chicory, or chocolate, or alcoholic beverages at noon?
 
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stbretnco    RE:US Secret Chemical Weapon   4/7/2006 4:51:41 AM
From personal experience, if you cut off the Java supply to a US Army Brigade TOC, the staff would be reduced to a quivering mass of personnel suffering DT's in a matter of hours. It would start with the senior NCO's and majors, going down the ranks as their troops suffered the ill effects of having a terminally pissed off boss.
 
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lightningtest    RE:US Secret Chemical Weapon   4/7/2006 7:06:23 AM
This stuff should be oulawed! I converted several US army aviation soldiers from vile cofee to drinking chinese tea when in the field, its either to prepare, more compact and doesn't dehyrdate you so much. The packets were labled "special gunpowder". They converted me to grits - not for long though!
 
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reefdiver    RE:US Secret Chemical Weapon   4/7/2006 7:02:32 PM
So to beat the US all you need to do is nuke (or biologically destroy) the coffee fields of South America...wow...
 
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Yimmy    RE:US Secret Chemical Weapon   4/7/2006 7:15:20 PM
The British Empire was built on tea. And you could easily right a several thousand word essay on it - not only have you got the anti-septic qualities there, but also the trade implications.
 
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jlb    RE:US Secret Chemical Weapon   5/2/2006 4:18:16 PM
In 1939 the British government bought the entire worldwide tea production to secure supply to the armed forces. Tea was considered about as vital as ammunition.
 
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Thomas    RE:US Secret Chemical Weapon   6/22/2006 8:33:08 PM
I once had a superior that would have been slightly more convincing as a coordinator, if he had omitted to tilt his teacup at any given opportunity. And as to cutting off the coffee supply of the US army, I doubt very much it will affect the armoured units, as the generally have a lot of used gearbox oil as a substitute - i doubt very much if anybody would notice the difference. But a correct - if not always sound - advice to the senior NCO about to blow his gasket: " Go easy on the decaff."
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan    RE:US Secret Chemical Weapon   6/23/2006 12:13:02 AM
Tea has a longer lasting but mellower high as compared to coffee.
 
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andyf    grits   11/29/2006 11:42:13 AM
what the hell are grits anyway?
from on the telly it looks like mashed potato
 
 
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BLUIE006       12/18/2006 5:23:30 AM
I thought the Secret US chemical  weapon  ...was  macdonalds ??  I  read  somewhere that no country  with  a macdonalds  have  ever attacked the USA ....
 
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Softwar    Grits is Grits   12/28/2006 3:51:59 PM

what the hell are grits anyway?

from on the telly it looks like mashed potato

 

"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grits"

Grits is a type of maize porridge and a food common in the Southern United States and southern Manchuria (where it is called gezi in Mandarin) consisting of coarsely ground corn, traditionally by a stone mill. The results are passed through screens, with the finer part being corn meal, and the coarser being grits. Many communities in the Southern U.S. had a gristmill until the mid-20th century, with families bringing their own corn to be ground, and the miller retaining a portion of the corn for his fee. Grits aficionados still prefer stone ground grits, although modern commercial milling companies prefer other methods. In South Carolina, state law requires grits and corn meal to be enriched, similar to the requirements for flour, unless the grits are ground from corn where the miller keeps part of the product for his fee.
Until very recently, "grits" was invariably singular, not plural, and is still so in correct usage
 
 
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Shirrush       12/28/2006 4:42:39 PM
Well yes, coffee keeps me going too, and I've never even set foot in the New World.

Tea is by no means a viable alternative. We drink lots of it here, and we have access to some great stuff too at decent prices, owing to the laudable efforts of a certain company that immigrated from Varsaw, Poland, about 70 years ago.
Moreover, every Israeli balcony, garden, or wood, provides us with a decent year-round supply of the weeds with which it is customary here, to supplement tea, for effects ranging from an improved taste to real therapeutic benefits against the Common Cold or the Falafel's Revenge.
But there's a time for tea, and there's a time for coffee, and none of us would get confused between the two.

When I got to IDF basic training as a reservist with the "Echelon B" program (direct induction to reserve for immigrants, combat or not, skipping about 32 months of compulsory military service), we were told that coffee was unavailable at the base owing to the fact that the female soldiers and NCO's that were responsible for a large part of our instruction did not drink any. This, of course, was a blatant lie, and every morning the cooks would come out with a large aluminum cauldron in which they had boiled (sob!) a few cheapo teabags (yuck!) with a few 1 kg packs of sugar thrown in, I guess in order to improve pourability through an increase in viscosity.
The color was somehow similar to the mediocre coffee you guys were referring to, but I can tell you that after one week of this, most of us started to develop genuinely clinical symptoms of what we soon named  "morning depression", with tears and all, and believe me, there was no other objective reason to feel down other than the lack of coffee, (coffee, not cafein, of which there's plenty in the aforementioned abomination!) since the "hardships" we were submitted to by our earnest and good-willing staff were nothing compared to what we had grown accustomed to by simply being Israeli civilians for a few years.
Salvation came in the second or third week, when we were required to take turns at the base's kitchen to do what we knew best, some work that is, since the cooks had an ample supply of our favorite Turkish coffee that they were simply hoarding for their own use, and with which we were rewarded for our dexterity at wielding the knife against them cukes and carrots, and for our diligence at scouring the kosher yet grimy oven pans.

Most of us quickly understood that the kitchen was the place where one could simply spend his time doing something, that had the additional advantage of having decent coffee and in which we were shielded from the endless classes on Uzi safety and that sort of crap.
The result was that we ended up fighting and arguing among ourselves about who's turn it was to go peel the taters, with everybody vying to get in there, not out!

 
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