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Subject: Missing 727
sunray01    6/12/2003 1:09:56 PM

This story has the FBI,CIA, and US State Department looking for an aircraft that flat out disappeared. A Voice of America report filed on the web states " the plane was last heard requesting permission to land in the Seychelles" The Boeing 727-223 did not land after the request and no one seems to know where it is. Considering the WTC attacks on 911 and the current whereabouts unknown status of Osama Bin Laden and various other persons of interest this story may become all too important in the days ahead. Fully fueled and perhaps retrofitted with portable fuel bladders and a cloned radar transponder this aircraft has the range to reach any area in the continental US.along with a significant payload.

PERFORMANCE

Max Level Speed : 549 ktas (1,017 km/h, 632 mph)
Service Ceiling : -100: 11,400 m (37,400 ft)
-200: 10,730 m (35,200 ft)
FAR T-O distance : 2,938 m (9,640 ft)
FAR Landing Field Length : 1,430 m (4,690 ft)
Range (12,474 kg/27,500 lb payload, 36,831 l/9,730 US Gal fuel)
: 2,600 nm (4,818 km, 2,994 sm)
FUEL CAPACITY

Standard: 30,623 l (8,090 US Gal)
2 Optional fuselage fuel tanks can be installed, displacing forward
and/or aft cargo compartment volume. These designer bladder fuel
cells can contain up to 9,387 l (2,480 US Gal)each
(source Boeing727.com)

If further range is required removal of passenger seats and installation of military type portable rubber fuel bladders could be achieved with a minimal technical effort. Provided aircraft C/G requirements and weight limitations are observed a conservative doubling of published endurance figures (5hours) seems likely.With a conservative radius of action of 9636km/5200nm/5998sm
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WEIGHTS

Empty Operating Weight : 45,360 kg (100,000 lb)
MTOW (dry engines) : 83,820-95,027 kg (184,800-209,500 lb)
Max Ramp Weight : 84,275-95,254 kg (185,800-210,000 lb)
Max Zero-Fuel Weight : 62,595-65,315 kg (138,000-144,000 lb)
Max Landing Weight : 70,080-73,028 kg (154,500-161,000 lb) (source Boeing727.com) (USAF.com) (FAA.gov) (Boeing.com)

The 727-200, introduced in December 1967, had increased gross weight and a 20-foot longer fuselage that could accommodate as many as 189 passengers . In all variations, 1,245 of the -200s were sold.(Boeing.com)

As DB Cooper noted the rear access stairs make a convenient exit possible from altitude. With the 4th of July so close at hand one hopes that NORAD and US Air Defense will watch the skies. One hopes better than they did on Sept 11th.
Stan Bernard
: IATA ICAO FAA Q City Airport Country[.State] Latitude Longitude Elevation Notes
FSSS Mahé Seychelles International SC: SEYCHELLES 4° 41' S 55° 32' E 13 ft
SEYCHELLES Republic of Seychelles Repiblik Sesel SC SYC SE Equatorial Africa



Name Full name Official name ISO FIPS Region Notes
ANGOLA Republic of Angola Republica de Angola AO AGO AO Southern Africa





Luanda

LAD FNLU Luanda Aeroporto 4 de Fevereiro/Belas AO 8° 50' S 13° 14' E 230 ft


A BOEING 727 passenger jet, grounded at Luanda airport a year ago, has disappeared after a mysterious unauthorised take-off, Angola state radio reported today.
The plane, chartered by the Angolan airline Airangol, was grounded after being banned from overflying Angolan territory on account of a series of irregularities, said Angola civil aviation director Helder Preza.

A witness to the plane's departure on Sunday, airport employee Luis Lopes, said he saw a white man start the empty plane and then take off after a few dangerous land manoeuvres.

Airport chief Celso Rosa said there was some evidence to believe the Boeing had been fuelled up at Luanda airport, and said he would provide this information to the transportation ministry's investigation into the incident.

from news @ au may 28th2003

Angolan government recommended on Friday the "Urgent Conclusion" of the inquiry on the illegal taking off, on Sunday May 25, of an airplane from the "4 de Fevereiro" international airport. The government also recommended the setting up of a multisectorial commission to study, evaluate and propose the adoption of measures aimed at reinforcing security in the airports of the country. The Angolan minister for transports, André Luís Brandão, assured that the inquiry is being done and that in his department "The results of inquiries are always published", adding that it was a very unusual case.

André Luís Brandão stressed that this situation will call for urgent and efficient measures to be taken to keep order and security in the "4 de Fevereiro" International Airport.


The airplane, which had a USA number plate (N844AA), was in the country working for a company called "Air Angola"

> link

Voice of America June 11th by Alex Belida@ ThePentagon

Authorities in Africa and the United States are looking for a Boeing 727 jet missing from Angola since late last month under suspicious circumstances.

The Boeing 727 has been missing since it took off under mysterious circumstances from Luanda airport in the southwest African country of Angola more than two weeks ago.

U.S. government officials tell VOA it was last heard of requesting landing permission in the Seychelles off the coast of East Africa but never arrived there. The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, say the aircraft's disappearance looks like a criminal act.

But with memories still fresh of the bloody September 11 terrorist plane hijackings in the United States almost two years ago, the officials say they have to remain open to the possibility that terrorism may be involved in the case of the vanishing 727.

Authorities in Angola say the plane took off illegally on Sunday, May 25. The country's minister of transportation later indicated the aircraft's disappearance would lead to stepped up security at Luanda airport.

The plane was brought to Angola by a firm called Air Angola. According to VOA's Portuguese service, that firm is owned by a group of current and former high-ranking military officials.


Boeing 727-200



However the Boeing 727 had been parked idle at the airport for more than a year for non-payment of some $4 million in fees to Angola's airport authority.

Some U.S. officials say they suspect the plane may have been flown off to avoid repossession. Others tell VOA they believe it may have been crashed for insurance purposes.

According to the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration, the plane was built in 1975. Although it was originally operated by American Airlines, according to FAA records, its latest registered owner was an aircraft leasing firm based in Miami, Florida.

Efforts to contact the firm were unsuccessful. The telephone number for the company has been disconnected.

An FAA spokesman had no new information on the plane or the firm. He told VOA firms are legally obliged to inform the agency of address changes and any transfers in aircraft ownership. But the spokesman conceded that does not always happen and he could not rule out the possibility the plane may have been sold to foreign owners.

Curiously, despite the FAA records, other U.S. government officials said the plane belongs to an American who lives in South Africa who leased the aircraft to others. These officials provided no additional details.

Jet Photos.com has similar data to the FAA database but with pictures showing an aircraft with the tail # N844AA in American Airlines Colors the link below shows aircraft engine data/operators/etc

link

This link shows the jet in 1998 and 2001

link

This link
 
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SYSOP1    This was posted by sunray01 as another thread and moved here by Sysops1 to save space   9/10/2003 6:57:03 PM
FLYING BOMB? WAS REASON WHY BRITISH AIRWAYS CANCELLED FLIGHTS TO SAUDI ARABIA by Gordon Thomas An international hunt is on to find a flying bomb ? a stolen Boeing 727 ? which led to British Airways cancelling all flights to Saudi Arabia last week. The plane is a fuel tanker that MI6 and other spy agencies fear is in the hands of al-Qaeda. The search is being coordinated by Richard Dearlove, director of MI6, and George Tenet, the CIA chief. Both President Bush and Tony Blair, on holiday in Barbados, are being kept updated on the search ? one of the most difficult in aviation history. Hidden somewhere in the vast Sahara desert of East Africa ? an area the size of Europe ? the spy chiefs believe the Boeing was poised to launch its attack on a British airliner as it began its descent over Saudi Arabia into Riyadh airport. Suspected al-Qaeda terrorists spotted outside the airport last week are now believed to have been using sophisticated electronic equipment to track British airways flights. They escaped before Saudi police could arrest them. The international agencies involved in the hunt for the Boeing are MI6, Mossad, the CIA and NSA, America?s spy in the sky. All have confirmed the feasibility of the flying bomb destroying a British Airways commercial plane. The attack would require no more than two pilots. ?Al-Qaeda have a number of such pilots who were trained in Iran. We have been hunting them for some time in Africa?, said a Mossad source. The area where the Boeing is believed hidden has little or no radar cover ? making it almost impossible to track as it took off on its deadly mission. ?We are certain that the flying bomb will have been re-sprayed in the colours of one of the small airlines operating in central Africa?, an intelligence officer involved in the hunt said. ?That makes it even harder to spot as there are a lot of old 727s flying in Africa, bought cheap from major airlines?. The Boeing?s own navigation system would enable it to intercept a British Airways flight as it descended into Riyadh airport. ?The crew would be relaxing after their long flight being almost over. They would not be looking out for an attack coming across the Red Sea from Africa. At a closing speed of almost 900 miles, they would have no chance to avoid the flying bomb?, said international security expert Ted Gunderson in Washington. The Boeing fuel tanker can carry twice the amount of jet fuel which caused the fireballs that toppled the World Trade Centre in New York. America?s Homeland Security Agency ? which coordinates all intelligence for President Bush ? sent out an urgent warning that al-Qaeda ?has a continuing fixation to use a large plane to launch a spectacular to mark the second anniversary of 9/11?. Christopher Yates, a security analyst with Jane?s Aviation Service in London said: ?it doesn?t take a genius to figure out if you filled up the Boeing tanker to capacity you would have a huge bomb?. It was that threat which led to MI6 sending a ?red alert? to British Airways. America?s National Security Agency (NSA) has moved one of its satellites in the Middle East to begin to quarter the Sahara. Intelligence officers have been authorised to pay substantial sums to nomadic Arabs who roam the Sahara for any clues as to where the Boeing is hidden. The last sighting was made two months ago by a Canadian pilot, Robert Strothers. Taking off from Comakry, the seaport capital of Gunea, he claimed he saw the Boeing parked inside a hanger. ?It had been re-sprayed. But the old registration was still visible?, Strothers has told MI6. By the time an MI6 officer from adjoining Sierra Leone had arrived in Guinea, the 727 had gone. It was next reported to have landed at Ndjamrna, an airport in Chad. The country adjoins Sudan. The Sudanese deny the aircraft entered their air space ? and hinted it had flown north to the Middle East. Last week, the State Department in Washington ? which has asked all its diplomats in the region to ?mobilise their resources? ? said that ?finding the plane is now a top priority?. Another urgent concern is to discover the fate of Ben Padilla, the 51 year old American ?bush pilot? who was at the controls of the 727 when it suddenly took off from Luanda airport in Angola on May 25. That afternoon, a still unidentified man had paid for 14,000 gallons of jet fuel with US dollars. Shortly before 5pm, Padilla climbed on board with the man. He was later described as ?Middle Eastern?. Padilla had been at the airport for some weeks. He claimed he represented a Miami company called Aerospace and Leasing, ASL. The company later denied he was working for them. The Luanda airport manager, Helder Preza, said the Boeing had ran up £30,000 of charges while being parked at the airport after being sold on by American Airlines to ASL. Padilla guaranteed payment on ASL notepaper. He was then allowed to carry out essential aircraft maintenance to fly the plane back to Miami. On that May afternoon, he announced to Luanda Air Traffic Control he was going to do engine tests. He fired-up all three engines and rolled the 727 out to the runway. Suddenly, remembers Helder, ?the plane took off. Padilla and the mystery man were on board. The radio was turned off. The transponder, which would have allowed radar to track the plane, was turned off. In minutes it was gone?. Padilla?s brother, Joe, who lives in Pensacola, Florida, believes his brother was ?forced to fly some place and is now dead?. ends GLOBE-INTEL is a free subscription service provided by link sunray01
 
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SYSOP1    Post moved by Sysops by madane   9/10/2003 7:02:22 PM
There was a segment on foxnews.com with Gretna Van Susteran tonight about this missing plane. So far as this interview is concerned, it seems the plane and the man are still missing madane
 
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SYSOP1    moved by Sysops from Sunray00 multiple post   9/10/2003 7:03:40 PM
Greta is no doubt correct..See below FLYING BOMB? WAS REASON WHY BRITISH AIRWAYS CANCELLED FLIGHTS TO SAUDI ARABIA by Gordon Thomas An international hunt is on to find a flying bomb ? a stolen Boeing 727 ? which led to British Airways cancelling all flights to Saudi Arabia last week. The plane is a fuel tanker that MI6 and other spy agencies fear is in the hands of al-Qaeda. The search is being coordinated by Richard Dearlove, director of MI6, and George Tenet, the CIA chief. Both President Bush and Tony Blair, on holiday in Barbados, are being kept updated on the search ? one of the most difficult in aviation history. Hidden somewhere in the vast Sahara desert of East Africa ? an area the size of Europe ? the spy chiefs believe the Boeing was poised to launch its attack on a British airliner as it began its descent over Saudi Arabia into Riyadh airport. Suspected al-Qaeda terrorists spotted outside the airport last week are now believed to have been using sophisticated electronic equipment to track British airways flights. They escaped before Saudi police could arrest them. The international agencies involved in the hunt for the Boeing are MI6, Mossad, the CIA and NSA, America?s spy in the sky. All have confirmed the feasibility of the flying bomb destroying a British Airways commercial plane. The attack would require no more than two pilots. ?Al-Qaeda have a number of such pilots who were trained in Iran. We have been hunting them for some time in Africa?, said a Mossad source. The area where the Boeing is believed hidden has little or no radar cover ? making it almost impossible to track as it took off on its deadly mission. ?We are certain that the flying bomb will have been re-sprayed in the colours of one of the small airlines operating in central Africa?, an intelligence officer involved in the hunt said. ?That makes it even harder to spot as there are a lot of old 727s flying in Africa, bought cheap from major airlines?. The Boeing?s own navigation system would enable it to intercept a British Airways flight as it descended into Riyadh airport. ?The crew would be relaxing after their long flight being almost over. They would not be looking out for an attack coming across the Red Sea from Africa. At a closing speed of almost 900 miles, they would have no chance to avoid the flying bomb?, said international security expert Ted Gunderson in Washington. The Boeing fuel tanker can carry twice the amount of jet fuel which caused the fireballs that toppled the World Trade Centre in New York. America?s Homeland Security Agency ? which coordinates all intelligence for President Bush ? sent out an urgent warning that al-Qaeda ?has a continuing fixation to use a large plane to launch a spectacular to mark the second anniversary of 9/11?. Christopher Yates, a security analyst with Jane?s Aviation Service in London said: ?it doesn?t take a genius to figure out if you filled up the Boeing tanker to capacity you would have a huge bomb?. It was that threat which led to MI6 sending a ?red alert? to British Airways. America?s National Security Agency (NSA) has moved one of its satellites in the Middle East to begin to quarter the Sahara. Intelligence officers have been authorised to pay substantial sums to nomadic Arabs who roam the Sahara for any clues as to where the Boeing is hidden. The last sighting was made two months ago by a Canadian pilot, Robert Strothers. Taking off from Comakry, the seaport capital of Gunea, he claimed he saw the Boeing parked inside a hanger. ?It had been re-sprayed. But the old registration was still visible?, Strothers has told MI6. By the time an MI6 officer from adjoining Sierra Leone had arrived in Guinea, the 727 had gone. It was next reported to have landed at Ndjamrna, an airport in Chad. The country adjoins Sudan. The Sudanese deny the aircraft entered their air space ? and hinted it had flown north to the Middle East. Last week, the State Department in Washington ? which has asked all its diplomats in the region to ?mobilise their resources? ? said that ?finding the plane is now a top priority?. Another urgent concern is to discover the fate of Ben Padilla, the 51 year old American ?bush pilot? who was at the controls of the 727 when it suddenly took off from Luanda airport in Angola on May 25. That afternoon, a still unidentified man had paid for 14,000 gallons of jet fuel with US dollars. Shortly before 5pm, Padilla climbed on board with the man. He was later described as ?Middle Eastern?. Padilla had been at the airport for some weeks. He claimed he represented a Miami company called Aerospace and Leasing, ASL. The company later denied he was working for them. The Luanda airport manager, Helder Preza, said the Boeing had ran up £30,000 of charges while being parked at the airport after being sold on by American Airlines to ASL. Padilla guaranteed payment on ASL notepaper. He was then allowed to carry out essential aircraft maintenance to fly the plane back to Miami. On that May afternoon, he announced to Luanda Air Traffic Control he was going to do engine tests. He fired-up all three engines and rolled the 727 out to the runway. Suddenly, remembers Helder, ?the plane took off. Padilla and the mystery man were on board. The radio was turned off. The transponder, which would have allowed radar to track the plane, was turned off. In minutes it was gone?. Padilla?s brother, Joe, who lives in Pensacola, Florida, believes his brother was ?forced to fly some place and is now dead?. ends GLOBE-INTEL is a free subscription service provided by link
 
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SYSOP1    Post by Sunray00 moved by Sysops to consolidate Space   9/10/2003 7:08:16 PM
FLYING BOMB? WAS REASON WHY BRITISH AIRWAYS CANCELLED FLIGHTS TO SAUDI ARABIA by Gordon Thomas An international hunt is on to find a flying bomb ? a stolen Boeing 727 ? which led to British Airways cancelling all flights to Saudi Arabia last week. The plane is a fuel tanker that MI6 and other spy agencies fear is in the hands of al-Qaeda. The search is being coordinated by Richard Dearlove, director of MI6, and George Tenet, the CIA chief. Both President Bush and Tony Blair, on holiday in Barbados, are being kept updated on the search ? one of the most difficult in aviation history. Hidden somewhere in the vast Sahara desert of East Africa ? an area the size of Europe ? the spy chiefs believe the Boeing was poised to launch its attack on a British airliner as it began its descent over Saudi Arabia into Riyadh airport. Suspected al-Qaeda terrorists spotted outside the airport last week are now believed to have been using sophisticated electronic equipment to track British airways flights. They escaped before Saudi police could arrest them. The international agencies involved in the hunt for the Boeing are MI6, Mossad, the CIA and NSA, America?s spy in the sky. All have confirmed the feasibility of the flying bomb destroying a British Airways commercial plane. The attack would require no more than two pilots. ?Al-Qaeda have a number of such pilots who were trained in Iran. We have been hunting them for some time in Africa?, said a Mossad source. The area where the Boeing is believed hidden has little or no radar cover ? making it almost impossible to track as it took off on its deadly mission. ?We are certain that the flying bomb will have been re-sprayed in the colours of one of the small airlines operating in central Africa?, an intelligence officer involved in the hunt said. ?That makes it even harder to spot as there are a lot of old 727s flying in Africa, bought cheap from major airlines?. The Boeing?s own navigation system would enable it to intercept a British Airways flight as it descended into Riyadh airport. ?The crew would be relaxing after their long flight being almost over. They would not be looking out for an attack coming across the Red Sea from Africa. At a closing speed of almost 900 miles, they would have no chance to avoid the flying bomb?, said international security expert Ted Gunderson in Washington. The Boeing fuel tanker can carry twice the amount of jet fuel which caused the fireballs that toppled the World Trade Centre in New York. America?s Homeland Security Agency ? which coordinates all intelligence for President Bush ? sent out an urgent warning that al-Qaeda ?has a continuing fixation to use a large plane to launch a spectacular to mark the second anniversary of 9/11?. Christopher Yates, a security analyst with Jane?s Aviation Service in London said: ?it doesn?t take a genius to figure out if you filled up the Boeing tanker to capacity you would have a huge bomb?. It was that threat which led to MI6 sending a ?red alert? to British Airways. America?s National Security Agency (NSA) has moved one of its satellites in the Middle East to begin to quarter the Sahara. Intelligence officers have been authorised to pay substantial sums to nomadic Arabs who roam the Sahara for any clues as to where the Boeing is hidden. The last sighting was made two months ago by a Canadian pilot, Robert Strothers. Taking off from Comakry, the seaport capital of Gunea, he claimed he saw the Boeing parked inside a hanger. ?It had been re-sprayed. But the old registration was still visible?, Strothers has told MI6. By the time an MI6 officer from adjoining Sierra Leone had arrived in Guinea, the 727 had gone. It was next reported to have landed at Ndjamrna, an airport in Chad. The country adjoins Sudan. The Sudanese deny the aircraft entered their air space ? and hinted it had flown north to the Middle East. Last week, the State Department in Washington ? which has asked all its diplomats in the region to ?mobilise their resources? ? said that ?finding the plane is now a top priority?. Another urgent concern is to discover the fate of Ben Padilla, the 51 year old American ?bush pilot? who was at the controls of the 727 when it suddenly took off from Luanda airport in Angola on May 25. That afternoon, a still unidentified man had paid for 14,000 gallons of jet fuel with US dollars. Shortly before 5pm, Padilla climbed on board with the man. He was later described as ?Middle Eastern?. Padilla had been at the airport for some weeks. He claimed he represented a Miami company called Aerospace and Leasing, ASL. The company later denied he was working for them. The Luanda airport manager, Helder Preza, said the Boeing had ran up £30,000 of charges while being parked at the airport after being sold on by American Airlines to ASL. Padilla guaranteed payment on ASL notepaper. He was then allowed to carry out essential aircraft maintenance to fly the plane back to Miami. On that May afternoon, he announced to Luanda Air Traffic Control he was going to do engine tests. He fired-up all three engines and rolled the 727 out to the runway. Suddenly, remembers Helder, ?the plane took off. Padilla and the mystery man were on board. The radio was turned off. The transponder, which would have allowed radar to track the plane, was turned off. In minutes it was gone?. Padilla?s brother, Joe, who lives in Pensacola, Florida, believes his brother was ?forced to fly some place and is now dead?. ends GLOBE-INTEL is a free subscription service provided by link
 
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SYSOP1    Post by sunray00 moved by SysOps to consolidate space   9/10/2003 7:09:26 PM
Unspecified US Intelligence assets have located a badly repainted 727 in Africa. Military surveilance of the aircraft was apparently on going.. although once again its where abouts is unknown.. We found it once and should be able to find it again. The re-painting was unable to conceal the aircrafts registration number. No mention was made of Mr Padilla's where abouts, perhaps the eyes on the ground have photographs or video of people connected with the aircraft in question. Without a physical piece of the aircraft with a serial number that could in fact be verified as being from the correct aircraft.. what do we really know for sure? Somebody went to a great deal of trouble to move this aircraft. They also are taking measures designed to obscure its origins. A pattern of behaviour that may indicate a gun runner or something else. I'd be interested in civil aircraft sales going back perhaps 8 years and knowing the whereabouts and disposition of all scrapped aircraft. In my own speculative scenario, a regularly scheduled cargo flight is cancelled and compromised. The flight data is handed on and our refitted 727 with a cloned transponder , and the legit flight plan joins the traffic flow across the atlantic..Aux fuel is pumped from the bladders into the regular wingtanks keeping the flight engineer busy as the terminal phase of the operation commences. Following a regular UPS Sunday night flight plan the 727 mode c transponder identifies itself as a 747 traveling from Paris to New York. With the coast line in sight the co-pilot uses a cellphone to alert the ground units , a pre planned assault on the ATC system commences denying power and communication to civilian air traffic control. The power and communication lines to 11 radar antennas are lost. GPS co-ordinates confirmed by the faithful , our pilot makes his last way point turn... gratified to see the lights on the top floors of the building have been left on by the cleaner as arranged... N448A banks and makes sharp descent clipping trees and flagpoles and impacting halfway up building as planned. The cargo of strontium 90 and cessium 139 scatters and settles on the streets and buildings below the UN building shatters and burns as hell is visited upon us once again.. If we found this plane.. then lets ground it .. because THEY wont stop until we stop them
 
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fasttrack    RE:Post by sunray00 moved by SysOps to consolidate space   12/26/2003 7:17:19 PM
so. have we found the bugger then?
 
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friend2all    RE:Post by sunray00 moved by SysOps to consolidate space   1/13/2004 6:06:59 PM
It was found repainted with new tail numbers, etc. Insurance fraud is a likely explanation. Friend
 
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padilla1956    RE:Missing 727   2/10/2004 11:05:50 PM
Hello, I am Joseph B. Padilla, SR. I am the brother of Ben Charles Padilla, Jr. He was onboard the Boeing 727 Plane that disappeared from Angola On May 25 2003. I am writting you to ask you if you have any contacts in or around Angola. The U.S. State Dept.has told me that they have posted a reward for my brother and have posted the information about him on Billboards, On posters to be put in store fronts, and have printed information about him on Matchbooks and have passed them out. I have no proof of this that the State Dept. is telling me and wanted to ask you if you do have any contacts in Angola, If they can see for themselves if this is true. I would like to have some proof that the state dept. is offering a reward and is posting the information like they are telling me. I sure you like to see pictures of the billboards, posters posted and matchbook covers, etc. Can you let me know if you do, or not, have contacts in that region that could get some proof for my family? The only way our family recieves any information is from news organizations or from internet sites that has seen our plea for help. Anything you can tell me is greatly appreciated. Thank you so much for your time and I hope to hear from you. Joseph B. Padilla, SR. Phone - 850-944-9688 e-mail - padilla1956@cox.net
 
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