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raymond RE:msg duty continue 3/27/2004 6:08:31 PM

Frankly, I'm not sure how MSG duty will provide a decent civilian job for him. The only thing it's applicable to is security work, which pays verry little. What does he actually do in the corps?

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ilovemymarine RE:msg duty continue 4/1/2004 12:50:54 PM

he's aviation tech. he works with harm missle and stuff. he was tell me it will get him real good job when he get so what your saying that msg duty will be a waste of his time. can you tell what jobs there arethat will give him a good job. he wanted to msg duty to get a real good to support his daughter which was born on march 28.

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Sam RE:msg duty continue 4/1/2004 8:59:29 PM

MSG duty would only help him if he stays in and goes 2-3 times. As a SNCO det commander, some state dept pogue might put a good word in for him. As a one time deal. no help at all I, being a old guy, would think that if he was really wanted to help provide for the "family" He would marry you. If only for the extra money. If he goes to japan single, no BAQ no FSA. If you get married one of you rates full Quarters allowance and the other rates partial. Your choice. More rank, more money. Then he will rate a separation allowance for being away from his family. If he goes to Iraq, its tax free. Not trying to be cruel, It sounds like he's not to keen on the family idea and is trying to jump ship on you. He is stuck in the job he has until reenlistment time. At which time he may/or may not be able to move to another job. If he wants to do something that will help him with a job when he gets out. Off duty education. Go to school, MC pays TA.

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raymond RE:msg duty continue 4/2/2004 12:10:29 AM

Sam pretty much summed it up. If you're talking about an MOS that can be applied in the civilian world, aviation is much better than MSG.

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ilovemymarine RE:msg duty continue 4/2/2004 9:14:56 AM

well last night he was telling he can get a jobe in the cia and stuff. so what you saying sam he can't apply for msg until his reenlistment. well he just reenlisted october of 2003. if anything he is bring more money in then me i've been in the navy for 4 years now and still haven't made e-4 hospital corpsman is slow at making rank. all i want from is to watch his daughter grow up i'm already seeing a lawyer in for child support . i think he would be better off if we got married like we planned but he was telling his chain of command is trying tofprce him out of marriage are they aloud to that??

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Sam RE:msg duty continue 4/2/2004 9:16:27 PM

No the CIA or State Dept doesn't hire based on being an Embassy Guard. If he doesn't have a degree neither will talk to him unless he's some high speed low drag recon type. (and then only for contract work) As a B-Billet, he can apply for MSG at any time, just needs to see his career planner for a checklist and the 1stSgt for an AA form. If he has reenlisted already than he is stuck in his MOS. As a Career Marine he made the decision to stay in his MOS when he reenlisted. As a former company Gunny, I will say that, and please don't get offended. If you are a crackhead, topless dancer than the command is probably telling him to think this marrage thing over. If you are a HM who gave birth to his child, as you are, they are telling him that he has an obligation to you and his daughter. In over 22 years in the Corps, I have never told a Marine that he couldn't get married. Nor have I ever heard anyone in the chain of command tell a Marine that he couldn't get married. This is not the 50s, The Marine Corps has no say in Marines get married or not. They don't grant permission, they don't deny permission and a Marine cannot be punished because he got married. The fact that you have to see a lawyer for child support says alot. Maybe you should talk to your Leading Petty Officer, a 1st Class or your Chief, to get their opinion. And maybe some guidance. The chaplain might look into the "Command influence to keep him from marrying you". Before you actually see the chaplin, tell your boyfriend that thats what you are doing. Chances are his story will change. Or he will claim that doing that will get him in trouble. If he is lying to you then he will catch some heat about that. If he's telling the truth he has nothing to worry about and you can both get married just like he wants.

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ChdNorm RE:msg duty continue 4/2/2004 10:22:16 PM

I've just been kind of loosely following this discussion, as I'm not a jarhead and I know Sam hates Cavalry troopers butting into his turf! I have to second everything Sam has said though. It does sound like there is some backpeddling going on over this. I can tell you that the CIA story is bunk. Maybe someone told him this and he bought it, but it just aint so. Right now theyre looking for specialists in technical fields, accounting, and lanquages for support personel. The inteligance community is rifling thru the ranks of narcotics enforcement officers for prospective operatives. I just dont see how being a Marine guarding an embassy has anything to do with any of the above. Hell, MSG duty wouldnt even get a second glance trying to hire on with Dallas PD. I hate to say it, but from what I've heard he either has some questionable priorities, or is looking for a way out. I think it's your duty to your daughter to proceed with documenting and recording all this for the sake of procuring support from him.

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ilovemymarine RE:msg duty continue 4/3/2004 9:37:26 AM

well already went through my chain of command they told that if were planning to get married go ahead and do it now it well benefit our child more but i hate putting our daughter in the middle right i don't think he understands what he is putting me through being away from his daughter for 3-4 years and then walk into her life is not my plan i want him to be there for every part of her life i hate to say this butshe deserve better. right now i'm up order by august and if were married my order status will be so much easier due to daul military marrige as for the navy there are aleast requiered to station us 50 miles apart. i really don'tknow how marines deal with daul marriage. the only reason why ineed to see a lawyer for child support for our daughter sake i know baby are not cheat and they grow up fast. i hope i can change his mind

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raymond RE:msg duty continue 4/4/2004 8:19:43 PM

Sam and I have said from the beginning that his story does'nt pass the smell test, and what you have added only reinforces that. If he really had some useful opportunity in MSG, what he's doing would be hard but right. However, there is really nothing in it, and I think he's knows that. At this point I would reccomend that you ask your chief to get in touch with his gunny and find out what story he is giving whom. Very soon now you will have to deliver an ultimatum: "Me and your daughter or MSG." If he chooses you and her, all well and good. If he chooses MSG, have your chief get in touch with his Company Gunney, start the paperwork for child support immediately, and recognize that is all you will get from him.

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