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Subject: When radical Islam gains a foothold, stonings, amputations, and religious executions follow.
swhitebull    8/29/2003 9:40:49 PM
this is an FYI article from national review, discussing the affect of Radical Islam on the vitality of nations and peoples. This is the case of the Nigerian woman who was raped, gave birth to a daughter more htan nine months after her husband divorced her, and is now ogng to be stoned to death after the child is weaned- VERY typical of what happens when Shariya gains a foothold in a culture or country, and is not fought VIGOROUSLY: http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-marshall082803.asp swhitebull- i only hope that by the time my kids are adults, this scourge will have been eliminated from the the world.
 
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appleciderus    RE:When radical Islam gains a foothold, stonings, amputations, and religious executions follow.    8/30/2003 6:13:16 AM
There are those who would say your are naive and culturally insensitive. They would demand less inflammatory rhetoric on your part and more understanding. After all, this is a complicated issue and only those properly educated are able to understand it, of course. There are posters on this site who claim to understand, but are unable or unwilling to explain to the rest of us. I believe it has been inferred that had they explained these complicated issues to the "Joe 6-Packs" among us, we wouldn't have understood it anyway.
 
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American Kafir    RE:When radical Islam gains a foothold, stonings, amputations, and religious executions follow.    8/30/2003 7:21:06 AM
>There are posters on this site who claim to understand, but are unable or unwilling to explain to the rest of us. I believe it has been inferred that had they explained these complicated issues to the "Joe 6-Packs" among us, we wouldn't have understood it anyway.< Of course we misunderstand. We're told that those radicals who persecute women in such circumstances are misapplying Islam. Which begs the question of when exactly the persecution of women is not a misapplication of Islam...
 
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swhitebull    RE:When radical Islam gains a foothold, stonings, amputations, and religious executions follow.    8/30/2003 7:46:56 AM
There are those of us "joe-6 packs" on this site- sorry - i drink sake and drambouie as my drugs of choice- who understand ONLY too well what we are facing. Cultural insensitivity? Did any one see the hatchet job that the distnguished professor from Columbia university- xxx Khalidi- tried to do to Daniel Pipes last night on MSNBC's Joe Scarborough show? and I quote, whenever Pipes brought up a cogent point and never responded in anything other than measured tones and words- "yeah , we should take the word from someone of the likes of Daniel Pipes", when Pipes challenged Khalidi with his own quotes. THis is what we are facing - rabid, anti American, anti Israel, anti Western fanaticism, combined with ignorance and no marketable skills except the ability to breed like rabbits and produce meatbombers. These animals want to kill - there is NOTHING else one needs to understand. The clash of cultures is already underway- those that refuse to see it or to deny it will be lucky if they are not swept up into Islamic fanatacism's path of destruction. swhitebull
 
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capitalist72    Radical Islam?    8/30/2003 10:26:01 AM
Radical Islam? As opposed to regular moderate Islam? Which school of pure Islamic thought is not radical by its very nature? I have come across many schools of Islam which, judging by the world view of the common folk I have interacted with, are all pretty radical sects and sub-sects: Sunni, Shia, Bohra, Ishnashri (sp?), Deobandi, Wahhabi, etc.. From the practise of their followers, the schools of Islamic thought that seem to be less fanatic are: Khojas (sp? followers of Aga Khan, and Sufis which is really diluted Islam. No interaction with Ahmediyas. What is particularly strange is how genuinely good average muslim people, pretty moderate in their everyday lives and interaction with people of other faiths, are absolutely unable to criticise any radical aspect of their faith or its followers. So the radicals, which do comprise a majority of the population in any case, go unchallenged. This is what separates Islam with any other religion today - Christian radicals are challenged by the general populace, as are Hindu ones, Jewish ones, etc. - but not in Islam, so even previously moderate Islamic societies (like Indonesia or muslims in the south of India) become "Wahabbised" over time. The clash of cultures is underway, and it's not Islam vs. the west, it's Islam vs. everybody else. What's saddest to see is those innocents who don't recognise they're under seige, as in lovely, friendly nations like Tanzania or Kenya who are slowly being Islamised - I hope they never lose the "African-ness."
 
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FJV    RE:When radical Islam gains a foothold, stonings, amputations, and religious executions follow.    8/30/2003 11:29:17 AM
The clash of cultures is here. It has been for a while. People have been trying to force the same BS through our throats again and again. - First people try to force fascism to the world. - Then people try to force socialism/communism on the world (a close cousin of fascism) - Now people have repackaged the BS and are trying to force fundamentalism on the world. For me it is the same story all over again. I'm hearing the same BS used to defend the communists again now used to defend the fundamentalists. I wouldn't be suprised if after the fall of fundamentalism a new name is thought up for this BS and the same thing repeats all over again with the same arguments.
 
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WinsettZ    RE:When radical Islam gains a foothold, stonings, amputations, and religious executions follow.    9/2/2003 1:26:52 PM
There's a lot of stuff in Islam that seems alright, but is easily overriden by fundamentalist elements. It's education, enlightenment and economy. Catholicism went through the same thing in the Dark/Middle Ages. But Islam is decentralized, so one Martin Luther figure will change very little.
 
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spectre    RE:When radical Islam gains a foothold, stonings, amputations, and religious executions follow.    9/3/2003 9:49:01 AM
Any cleric who steps up and says enough, is assassinated. The culture eats its own. Bush was criticized by liberals in this country and internationalists around the world when he said "you are with us or you are against us". When will these liberals and internationalists recognize that Islam is saying the very same thing? When will they see that it is time to swallow their pride and their ideology and choose sides?
 
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appleciderus    Internationalists and liberals...   9/3/2003 4:18:45 PM
...will NEVER admit they were wrong. Either they are preaching hatred of the US, or waiting for an opportunity to preach hatred of the US.
 
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Thomas    RE:Internationalists and liberals... FJV   9/4/2003 2:15:12 AM
Exactly my impression as well.
 
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Rosecroix    RE:When radical Islam gains a foothold, stonings, amputations, and religious executions follow.    9/4/2003 5:26:17 AM
hey spectre, we're all aware of that islam says the same thing, but if a nazi killed a jew, would you have to do it too? that your society is at least tenfold more advanced in technology and military capacity doesn't exactly make you seem bigger. im all for fighting an totalitarism in any way that WORKS. the talibans are already controlling areas in afghanistan again and it has been what? a year and a half? i consider myself a liberal. i think that if the bush doctrine and especially the part with neoconservative origins is laughable. want me to admit im wrong? tell reality to let it work, because so far it's been a disaster. what are you gonna do when iraqi born Ashmed al-Muhammad detonates a dirty bomb in new york? say oh i know we controlled the military and the economoics and most of the policy making in the free world (and if anyone ever didnt agree we whined like little children) but we shouldn't have to adapt to the situation! we're too grand, earn too much and know too little of the rest of the world and human psycology to be asked to deal with this! besides CNN reported it! the media spin brought us low! its ALL their FAULT! its common knowledge you can bomb them into complience! look at afghanistan! vietnam! it can be done! we just need MORE BOMBS! so yeah go ahead. crush libya and syria, do it the blue collar way, use nukes, thats the last time anyone gave in to a bombing campaign. that will bring you peace and quiet for generations no doubt. please forget all history lessons. forget the marshal aid, that never worked. germany was just undercover the last 60 years, they really still hate your guts. forget the lessons after WWI when nothing was done, that allowed national socialism to flourish. please i say again if your way works - it's high time to let reality know. and should you find in your self to perhaps reexamine the situation and look at it from a propaganda perspective (you know that itsy bitsy detail that is used to produce all the terrorists), perhaps you'll see where the battle stands. and realize that you've been loosing it since at least mid 2002. wanna know a secret? the key behind good propaganda is not saying your doing a good thing. it's to actually do it. /R
 
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