I'd like to take up this challenge. In order for me to replicate the "style" of the Quran, you're going to have to clearly define the criteria you will judge my attempt by.

"I'd like to take up this challenge. In order for me to replicate the "style" of the Quran, you're going to have to clearly define the criteria you will judge my attempt by." There are many aspects over which to judge the style by, and I can't name them off the top of my head. But let me tell you one thing before anything, seeing that you don't believe in God, this probably doesn't mean anything to you, but if you do attempt this and fail - and you will, you will have no more excuses for the illegitimacy of Islam, therefore, in the day of judgement, you will be asked about this, and will be asked why you didn't become muslim, and you will enter hell for eternity if you in fact wouldn't become muslim if you fail. So in other words, this is the MOST important decision you will ever make, and the MOST important task you will ever attempt. With that said, I have a book, in Arabic, just about the miraculous aspect of the quran, It will obviously take some time to read and translate, so while I do that, learn arabic and master it, you will need all the arabic you can possibly learn. This is important for you to understand, it won't be a fair challenge if you do not learn arabic first, because then I would be challenging you in something you have no knowledge of - like challenging a einstine to game of basketball, something he probably knows nothing about. So you must understand that this is a commitment, and before I can even bring you the rules, you need to have the pre-requisite, Arabic. If you feel that you already have all the Arabic you will ever need, which I highly doubt, then let me know, and I will provide you with the 'rules'.

Skip the impotent death threats and spooky fantasies of eternal torment. What's the rules?

"Skip the impotent death threats and spooky fantasies of eternal torment." They are not death threats, especially if you don't believe in Hell or Heaven. It is just my job, as a muslim, to warn you of what could come, that's it. "What's the rules?" Well, the first and most important rule that you must deal with first is Arabic. Master Arabic, then you would know the rest. All the rules are based on Arabic, if you don't understand arabic, you won't understand the rules. They involve grammatical structure, poetic structure, the use of certain letters and words, and so on.... To keep it simple, it MUST be grammitically correct. it must have a logical flow of ideas. It must have intelligent content. These are the rules for any piece of writing, as for a miraculous piece of writing: Well, it's not a book, it's not poetry, it's not a collection of essays or short stories, it is nothing any man has seen before, or after. Really, if you could only read arabic, you would know exactly what I am talking about. The problem is that I was raised knowing this, so it's hard for me to describe, but if I was speaking to an Arab christian, or Arab jew, I would just tell them it is the Quran, and they will know EXACTLY what I mean. Really, when I say you have to know arabic to understand, I mean it. So your first task, Learn arabic, then you will be able to read the Quran and compare it others great pieces of Arabic literature, and you will know exactly what I am talking about.

You obviously see how important this is, and what it could do, so you should know how the Quraishis felt when they were faced with the same challenge. They were determined, they offered the best poets piles of gold just to defeat this challenge, and those poets were the BEST, better poets than mohammed, yet they failed. For 1400 years, people have been trying, day and night, and some of those stories are still kept today. Ten words, that's all they had to do, they do that, and boom!! Islam is gone. Yet for 1400 years, no one was able to do it. Compine 1400 years' worth of generations who tried and put them in one room, all those couldn't write ten word similar to what ONE illiterate man came with. TEN WORDS!!!! TEN WORDS!!!! TEN WORDS!!!!! in 1400 years, no TEN WORDS were close to resembling the style of the Quran. It is divine intervention, something that will last till the lst human dies, a challenge that has not been passed by a single human being from time of the prophet, till today. Just imagine how many people lived, and dies between then and now... not ONE person could write TEN words similar to that, what makes you think you can?

>>not ONE person could write TEN words similar to that, what makes you think you can?<< How do you say the following ten words in Arabic: "Mohammad lost a poetry contest and killed people for criticism"

Go ask a first grade Arab, they will know... And, NO it is no where near the shortest surah in the Quran. I don't believe that arrogance I see in you... Somehow you believe that you are better than 1400 years's worth of people who tried the same task you think you can complete, when you don't even know arabic... There is no point in continuing this discussion any further, come back when you learn arabic, becaue until then (and even then) your chances are 0:9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

I have to arrange a selection of words from 7th Century Arabic into a grammatically correct sentence that excludes anachronistic concepts and matches the "style" of the Quran. By "style," do you mean the writing I do has to agree with what the Koran says, or do I just have to use the words in the same sense and meanings that the Quran does? If that's the case, translate the following into 7th Century Arabic: "When you recite, remember that Allah causes to err and guides whom he pleases, and when the disbelievers say "Did Allah cause his Apostle to err" Say to them "Die infidel!" and kill them where they stand, for Allah is Righteous and Just."

"I have to arrange a selection of words from 7th Century Arabic into a grammatically correct sentence that excludes anachronistic concepts and matches the "style" of the Quran. By "style," do you mean the writing I do has to agree with what the Koran says, or do I just have to use the words in the same sense and meanings that the Quran does? If that's the case, translate the following into 7th Century Arabic: "When you recite, remember that Allah causes to err and guides whom he pleases, and when the disbelievers say "Did Allah cause his Apostle to err" Say to them "Die infidel!" and kill them where they stand, for Allah is Righteous and Just." funny, your attempt is the same as this guy that came a few years ago claiming to have 3 surahs like the quran, he cut and paste. Taking certain parts, and moving them around. His version had gramatical errors. Translating yours doesn't even come close to the Quran. Don't try to give me stuff in English and ask me to translate, because there is always a million ways to translate from one language to another... It would still require someone to translate it in a way to make it equal to the quran... I would never do that, and even if I tried, I would never be able to... If you really want to do this, LEARN ARABIC, then you can do whatever you want with the language to try and make like the quran.

I understand that grammatically correct 7th Century Arabic must be used. But you seem to be saying that there's more to the "style" of the Quran to be duplicated than just the grammar and the language. Does my attempt have to make you feel a sense of reverence for a co-opted moon avatar too?