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Subject: A Symposium of Islamic anti-Semitism
swhitebull    10/31/2003 7:20:06 AM
Given the fact that the ministers of all 57 countries attending the Islamic conference in Malaysia gave PM Mahathir an standing ovation when he proclaimed that the jews rule the world thru their proxies, it is extremely important to get a good background of the root causes of the virulent animus Islam directs towards the Jews. This is a good discussion of the Quranic origins of antiSemitism: http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=10581 Symposium: Islamic Anti-Semitism By Jamie Glazov FrontPageMagazine.com | October 31, 2003 Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir's recent comments at the Organization of the Islamic Conference, in which he claimed Jews run the world, powerfully crystallized the issue of Islamic anti-Semitism. So did the fact that 57 leaders from the Muslim world applauded Mahathir's Nazi lie. Is there something inherently anti-Semitic within the Islamic religion itself? Can Muslims shed themselves of anti-Semitism and remain devout Muslims? To discuss these and other questions relating to Islamic anti-Semitism with Frontpage Symposium today, we are joined by Kenneth R. Timmerman, an investigative reporter and author who has spent twenty years reporting on Europe and the Middle East. His latest book, Preachers of Hate: Islam and the War on America, raises serious questions about Saudi government funding of terror and Saudi funding of radical Wahhabi preachers and schools that are training new generations of Muslims to hate Jews and hate America. He is also the author of Shakedown: Exposing the Real Jesse Jackson, and The Death Lobby: How the West Armed Iraq, and writes regularly for Insight Magazine. Information on his latest book and recent articles are available at preachersofhate.com; Bat Ye’or, the author of three major books on dhimmis, jihad, and dhimmitude ( and ). On May 1, 1997-- after the publication of The Decline of Eastern Christianity under Islam. from Jihad to Dhimmitude (1996) -- she testified at a Hearing of the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on Near Eastern and South Asian Affairs on 'Religious Persecution in the Middle East' ("An Historical Overview of the Persecution of Christians under Islam. PAST IS PROLOGUE: The Challenge of Islamism Today"). Her latest study is Islam and Dhimmitude. Where Civilizations Collide (2002); see “Eurabia: The Road to Munich.” National Review Online, October 9, 2002; "European Fears of the Gathering Jihad." FPM, Feb. 21 2003; Walid Phares, Professor of Middle East Studies and Religious Conflict at Florida Atlantic University and a Senior Fellow with the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. He serves as an Analyst on Terrorism and Conflicts with MSNBC; and Robert Spencer, the director of Jihad Watch and the author of Onward Muslim Soldiers: How Jihad Still Threatens America and the West (new from Regnery Publishing), and Islam Unveiled: Disturbing Questions About the World’s Fastest Growing Faith (Encounter Books). Interlocutor: Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to Frontpage Symposium. Let's begin with the crucial question: is anti-Semitism rooted in the Qur'an and Islamic tradition? Is it possible to be a devout Muslim and not to be anti-Semitic? Bat Ye'or: If one reads the Qur'an and the Islamic tradition literally, it is clear that they contain very severe judgements on Jews, but not only on them, but also on Christians and others. There are two periods in the Qur'an, the verses pronounced in Mecca and those recited in Medina from 622. The first period is characterized by a deep religious feeling, a call to justice and for recognition of Allah's supreme power. The second part is linked with Muhammad battles in Medina to impose his new religion on the pagans, the Jews living in Medina who refused conversion, and on the Christians. The Qur'an is very much linked to Muhammad's life and it contains several contradictory verses, hence the principle that later verses abrogate the previous ones. The verses abrogated are uncertain even for scholars. As the Qur'an speaks abundantly of Jews, Christians and pagans, it is important for these people to know what is said about them. Today a few Muslim scholars try to contextualise the Qur'an in order to eliminate theological hatred. The Islamist war against the West, against Israel and Hindus in Kashmir, is based on this traditional reading of Islamic religious scriptures. Whether a devout Muslim can avoid Judeophobia will depend on the person and how he interprets the texts. Spencer: Muslim anti-Semites often appeal to several Qur’anic verses castigating Jews. In Suras 2:65 and 7:166 Allah says to a group of Jews, “Be ye apes, despised and rejected.” Muslim anti-Semites worldwide today refer to Jews as “apes” and “pigs” because of this verse and 5:60. Also, in authentic Islamic tradition there is much grounds for antagonism, such as these notorious hadiths: “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘The Hour will not be established un
 
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swhitebull    And Victor Davis Hanson - IF ONLY the Jews would disappear...   10/31/2003 11:09:02 AM
As usual, Hanson doesnt mince words on the effect of Islamo-Nazis, and the virulent policies they promote in demonizing the Jewish people, and of rising anti-Semitism in Europe and here in this country for the "Lefist" elites: http://nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson200310310840.asp October 31, 2003, 8:40 a.m. “Those Jews” If only Israel and its supporters would disappear. There are certain predictable symptoms to watch when a widespread amorality begins to infect a postmodern society: cultural relativism, atheism, socialism, utopian pacifism. Another sign, of course, is fashionable anti-Semitism among the educated, or the idea that some imaginary cabal, or some stealthy agenda — certainly not our own weakness — is conspiring to threaten our good life. Well apart from the spooky placards (stars of David juxtaposed with swastikas, posters calling for the West Bank to be expanded to "the sea") that we are accustomed to seeing at the marches of the supposedly ethical antiwar movement, we have also heard some examples of Jew-baiting and hissing in the last two weeks that had nothing to do with the old crazies. Indeed, such is the nature of the new anti-Semitism that everyone can now play at it — as long as it is cloaked in third-world chauvinism, progressive thinking, and identity politics. The latest lunatic rantings from Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad are nothing new, and we should not be surprised by his mindless blabbering about Jews and his fourth-grade understanding of World War II and the present Middle East. But what was fascinating was the reaction to his madness: silence from the Arab intelligentsia, praise from Middle Eastern leaders ("A brilliant speech," gushed Iran's "president" Mohammad Khatami), and worry from France and Greece about an EU proclamation against the slander. Most American pundits were far more concerned about the private, over-the-top comments of Gen. Boykin than about the public viciousness of a head of state. Paul Krugman, for example, expressed the general mushiness of the Left when he wrote a column trying to put Mahathir Mohamad's hatred in a sympathetic context, something he would never do for a Christian zealot who slurred Muslims. Much has been written about the usually circumspect Greg Easterbrook's bizarre ranting about "Jewish executives" who profit from Quentin Tarantino's latest bloody production. But, again, the problem is not so much the initial slips and slurs as it is the more calculated and measured "explanation." Easterbrook's mea culpa cited his prior criticism of Mel Gibson, as if the supposed hypocrisy of a devout and public Christian's having trafficked in filmed violence were commensurate with the dealings of two ordinary businessmen who do not publicly embrace religion. Michael Eisner and Harvey Weinstein simply happen to be movie executives, with no stake in producing Jewish movies or public-morality films, but — like most in Hollywood — with a stake in making money from films. That they are Jewish has absolutely no bearing on their purported lack of morality — unless, of course, one seeks to invent some wider pathology, evoking historical paranoia about profiteering, cabals, and "the Jews." Recently, Joseph Lieberman was hissed by an Arab-American audience in Dearborn, Mich. when he briefly explained Israel's defensive wall in terms not unlike those used by Howard Dean and other candidates. What earned him the special public rebuke not accorded to others was apparently nothing other than being Jewish — the problem was not what he said, but who he was. No real apology followed, and the usually judicious and sober David Broder wrote an interesting column praising the new political acumen of the Arab-American community. Tony Judt, writing in The New York Review of Books, has published one of the most valuable and revealing articles about the Middle East to appear in the last 20 years. There has always been the suspicion that European intellectuals favored the dismantling of Israel as we know it through the merging of this uniquely democratic and liberal state with West Bank neighbors who have a horrific record of human-rights abuses, autocracy, and mass murder. After all, for all too many Europeans, how else but with the end of present-day Israel will the messy Middle East and its attendant problems — oil, terrorism, anti-Semitism, worries over unassimilated Muslim populations in Europe, anti-Americanism, and postcolonial guilt — become less bothersome? Moreover, who now knows or cares much about what happened to Jews residing under Arab governments — the over half-million or so who, in the last half-century, have been ethnically cleansed from (and sometimes murdered in) Baghdad, Cairo, Damascus, and almost every Jewish community in the Arab Middle East? And what is the value of the only democratic government in a sea of autocracy if its existence butts up against notions of third-world victimhood and causes so much di
 
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Final Historian    RE:And Victor Davis Hanson - IF ONLY the Jews would disappear...   10/31/2003 2:53:40 PM
And still the majority of the American people are ignorant of the problem. Sometimes I can barely stomach it.
 
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