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Subject: HMS Invincible?
merman    2/20/2007 3:18:58 PM
Hello everyone! There's much controversy around what happened that 30 may 1982 during the Falkland War. Some say the Invincible was not attacked, that it was attacked but not damaged, attacked and damaged, while others go as far as to claim it was ultimately sunk. The thing is that there is supporting evidence to at least doubt in some way the official british version. For example, after the war all the Task Force returned to port but the Invincible, which remained at sea for two more months (?). It wasn't seen until august when it docked in the Falklands. It later returned to Portsmouth in mid September but (here another particularity) it looked brand new, instead of battle wary, like HMS Hermes looked upon returning (though it supposedly wasn't damaged during the conflict) There are a number of theories supporting each point of view, however I'd like to know what do you people think about this matter. I'll provide links shortly. Thanks
 
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StobieWan       5/17/2010 10:41:44 AM
Well, it's all classic internet conspiracy muttering really - make some general statements about an incident where there are many witnesses and documents, post a few random links to minor inconsistencies in testimony and then refuse to state what you stand for.

The idea that the Invincible was sunk and the loss hidden til a new carrier could be constructed did have me howling with laughter mind you :)

Ian

 
 
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David Hume       9/9/2011 10:16:39 AM

There seem to be some differencies between the Invincible that went to war...
 http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3290/invinci5yr.jpg" width="400" height="240" alt="" /> 
 
And the one that came back in 17 September:
 http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/3751/wodewotixnnm0mtnkzmqzmxk1nde0i.jpg" width="600" height="465" alt="" />
 
 
Such as the phalanx system that seems to appear in the photograph
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/6198/withphalanx3nm.jpg" width="600" height="433" alt="" /> 
That's because you ain't looking at decent photos, which blow all these arguments out of the Water!
 
http://www.millwall-history.org.uk/hms_invincible.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="" /> 
http://www.millwall-history.org.uk/HMSInvincible1982.jpg" width="720" height="589" alt="" /> 
 
 
 http://www.millwall-history.org.uk/HMS-Invincible-returns-to-009.jpg" width="460" height="276" alt="" />
 
 Below from the Daily Mail
 
http://www.millwall-history.org.uk/article-1334008-06319D6E0000044D-893_468x286.jpg" width="468" height="286" alt="" /> 
 
And Invincible and Illustrious together
 
http://www.millwall-history.org.uk/Invincible%20Class_l.jpg" width="800" height="510" alt="" /> 
 
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David Hume       9/9/2011 10:45:03 AM
And of course The Argentines have claimed to have sank HMS Invincible several times, even coming up with a photo or two....
 
http://www.millwall-history.org.uk/invincible17qn.jpg" width="600" height="512" alt="" /> 
 
 But when the Original photo is floating around, it looks like the crude fake it is!
 
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4810/hmsinvinciblelj0.jpg" width="734" height="587" alt="" /> 
 
 
 
 
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Bombermills       4/2/2012 9:23:28 AM
This is a photo of Hermes and Invincible, taken in the south atlantic on the day that Hermes started heading north for home. Hermes did not meet Illustrious on her way back to Portsmouth. Illustrious sailed from the UK after Hermes had returned, she did her workups on the way south to relieve Invincible. Neither Hermes or Invincible were damaged during the conflict. I was aboard Hermes when this photo was taken, the next ship I served on was Illustrious. When the Argies attacked, they did not know the positions of the ships in the fleet, they just had big radar contacts or small radar contacts, so attacked the biggest ones they could see on the radar. That is how Atlantic Conveyor got hit. 
 
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Bombermills       4/2/2012 9:24:41 AM
This is a photo of Hermes and Invincible, taken in the south atlantic on the day that Hermes started heading north for home. Hermes did not meet Illustrious on her way back to Portsmouth. Illustrious sailed from the UK after Hermes had returned, she did her workups on the way south to relieve Invincible. Neither Hermes or Invincible were damaged during the conflict. I was aboard Hermes when this photo was taken, the next ship I served on was Illustrious. When the Argies attacked, they did not know the positions of the ships in the fleet, they just had big radar contacts or small radar contacts, so attacked the biggest ones they could see on the radar. That is how Atlantic Conveyor got hit. 
 
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Argie Seaman       5/29/2013 11:41:05 AM

Comrades … this is the original drawing made by lieutenant Issac after the mission return

 

 

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=322614297828727&set=a.322614264495397.74554.307934002630090&type=3&theater

 

 

The Argentine version was unique from the day of the attack. The English version has changed at least four times.

 

 

There is a British map for the Malvinas areas for oil exploration. Tombs war graves. This marked the exact point of attack Invincible. At north of that point the exact point of attack Atlantic Conveyor

 

 

http://www.malvinense.com.ar/smalvi/10/1596.htm

 

 

There is another version, from the intelligence service of our navy, that a LPH of the US Navy, which came in dike in Puerto Rico, weeks after the attack, but we suppose it was he lost exocet over the Sheffield attack.

 

 

In my opinion the Invincible was repaired at unknown location to return home. The stern photos provide by Hume we notes the repaired in the location that lieutenant Issac said he hit the ship.

 

 

Best regards

 

 
 
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