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Subject: KUHNER: How the media are dividing Republicans
CJH    9/18/2011 3:03:19 PM
Debates provoke Republican hopefuls’ conflicts with each other rather than with Obama

"Mr. Perry’s executive order was wrong. It violated family autonomy and personal responsibility. Mr. Perry has admitted it was a mistake, he has apologized for it and the order was eventually overturned by the Texas legislature. The HPV vaccination was not Watergate. Mrs. Bachmann, however, refuses to back away from her accusations of influence-peddling. Even Sarah Palin is jumping on the bandwagon, decrying Mr. Perry’s “crony capitalism.” This may be true. But so far, there is one problem: evidence - or rather the lack of it. Making a charge is not the same thing as proving it.

The result is that the GOP is slowly descending into a civil war. Candidates are now turning their guns on one another instead of attacking the real enemy: Mr. Obama. What is remarkable about the recent debates is how little the moderators asked about America’s swift decline during the past three years. The record deficits, the historic credit downgrade, high unemployment, creeping inflation, economic sclerosis, soaring poverty rates, more than 45 million Americans on food stamps, the pervasive opposition to Obamacare, the abandonment of Israel, Iran’s impending acquisition of a nuclear bomb, the rise of radical Islam in Egypt and Libya - all of this is a direct result of Mr. Obama’s transnational hard-left policies. Yet hardly a question has been asked about any of these issues. Like in 2008, the liberal media is trying to prop him up."

 
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CJH       9/18/2011 4:04:03 PM
I don't know enough of the facts and I could be wrong but I can't help wondering about that woman who supposedly told Michelle Bachmann about her daughter who had become retarded as a result of the vaccine.
 
Bachmann's woman's story sounds totally phony. It is hard to believe Bachmann would make this up. So, is it believable that this was a story planted by an agent (the woman) of the Dems or of one of her Republican opponents to get Bachmann to trip herself up?
 
I get the sense that all but maybe Romney are like babes in the woods when it comes to dealing with the Washington establishment.
 
I don't know about Perry all that well but the HPV executive order story sounds a little weird. I've heard that he does not present himself in debates as well as he should. Maybe there are aspects to this story that he just hasn't thought to use in his defense.
 
Maybe these have some bearing -
 
 
" On one side is Rep. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., an obstetrician who speaks bluntly about the human papilloma virus (HPV), calling it "a very insidious disease." He has been fighting for more than a year to make HPV a reportable disease like AIDS and to put warnings on condom packages saying that they offer little or no protection against HPV.
On the other side is the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG), the Planned Parenthood Federation and the Society of Gynecologic Oncologists, whose combined protests succeeded in stripping Coburn's proposed legislation from one bill."
 
 
 
and
Arizona State University - New...
 
 
 
"The First Step On Friday, February 2nd , Texas governor Rick Perry signed an order requiring all girls in Texas between 11-12 years old, those entering sixth grade, to be immunized against HPV with Gardasil beginning in 2008 (16). As the first ruling of its kind in the United States since the approval of the groundbreaking vaccine, it is a huge step in the right direction toward eradicating HPV and eventually many deaths from cervical cancer in women. Large-scale vaccinations on the order of what Texas mandated are an assured way to begin taking control of the HPV epidemic. In a study done by Geoff P. Garnett and Heather C. Waddell of the Wellcome Trust Center for the Epidemiology of Infectious Disease at the University of Oxford in 2000, they discovered that as the proportion of the population effectively vaccinated rises, the proportion of those infected in the population decreases dramatically (17). Garnett and Waddell also suggest that HPV eradication is possible if a significant amount of the high and low sexual activity groups are vaccinated (17). They call this “herd immunity,” because while only a portion of the population may be vaccinated, mass immunization reduces exposure to others in that population. While Texas is the first state to require grade school immunizations for HPV, the United States could look forward to a future without the deadly disease if other states follow Texas’ example"

 
also (Texas also borders Mexico) (My emphasis) -
 
"Another reason to push for mandatory HPV vaccinations in Arizona is because the state borders Mexico. A report by the Arizona Department of Health Services’ Division of Public Health Services’ Office of Border Health revealed that HPV rates in Mexico are much higher than in Arizona (21). Since immigration rates from Mexico into Arizona have been rising for decades, more HPV-infected individuals are entering the state (22). This is even more reason for Arizona to adopt a plan to help prevent HPV infection."
 
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Jimme       9/20/2011 4:13:55 AM
I don't think Perry was wrong at all and i have totally written Bachmann off over this. We are talking about a vaccine no more dangerous then the MMR and one that could save a lot of girls from the horrors of Cervical Cancer. The grandstanding MB did I thought was BS. Their is nothing "potentially dangerous" about this vaccine and the only "enduring" these girls would have to do is a shot. The Idea that this will give young girls free license to go have sex is just stupid. 
 
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