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Subject: Democrat legislators fleeing Midwest states
YelliChink    2/22/2011 3:11:04 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/democrats-leave-indiana-2011-2 CONTAGION IN THE MIDWEST: Now Democrats Are Leaving Indiana To Avoid Union-Busting Vote Joe Weisenthal | Feb. 22, 2011, 12:27 PM First Democrats ditched Wisconsin to avoid having to vote on a bill that would strip public sector unions of the ability to collectively bargain. The contagion in the Midwest is spreading. Now according to the Indianapolis Star they're leaving Indiana, and will likely to go Illinois as well. Remember what the point of this move is. If they stay and vote against the measure, they'll lose and the vote will pass. By leaving the state they cause the state house to drop below quorum, thus preventing a vote. The reason they leave the state is so that the governor can't have the police arrest them and drag them home, and the reason they go to a state like Illinois is because the Democratic governor their -- Pat Quinn -- won't have them arrested either. This is obviously great news for possible Presidential candidate Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels. A fight with Democrats on this issue will boost his standing significantly. ====================================== This is so low that it is beyond belief. And for you leftists, don't lecture me about the union. We are not talking about private sector union here.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       2/22/2011 6:51:34 PM
The retiree benefits and obligations are the real budget killers for all states, even as younger state employees take pay cuts, mandatory furloughs, etc. Colorado employees are already on mando furlough days and will be getting much lower pay rates in the new contracts, but boomer retirees get to swim in cash and benefits, even when they move on to consulting and lobbying jobs.
 
Record this in your calenders, I'm in support of making the state unions suffer as the private sector unions have, at least with regards to retiree obligations.
 
The alternative to a vote is states declaring bankruptcy and leaving the retirees with nothing.
 

Greed F*N boomers.
 

 
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YelliChink       2/22/2011 10:10:36 PM
 
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doggtag    file it under: abandonment of post by elected officials   2/23/2011 8:38:24 AM
In any other job,
any other person would/could be fired for just walking off their job because they just didn't feel like doing their job.
 
Here, we have elected officials,
elected by the people, to represent the people.
Elected officials who've now taken it upon themselves to bail on the people.
Boo hoo, you don't want to vote.... Isn't that why people put you in that office, to make these decisions?
If you feel you aren't up to your end of the contract/obligation, then what the hell says you still even deserve the position/office at alone, let alone the pay check that goes with it.
 
Question is: in states troubled by financial woes, and the desire to trim excess, useless fat out of budgets,
maybe those states should start by firing those elected officials who willfully opted to walk out on the very constituents who put them in office: if you don't want to do the job, even when it gets dirty,
you damn well don't deserve the pay (and perks) that go with it.
 
 
If elected officials can just storm off like some spoiled brat when they aren't getting their way, how can their constituents trust them to behave if/when they ever decide to come back?
 
Fire evey last one of them.
No benefits, no severance package. They walked off. Willingly.
Any other job, that's grounds for dismissal.
 
 
 
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buzzard       2/23/2011 9:52:13 AM
Indeed. These scum should be canned on the spot. This flagrant rejection of the democratic process is simply disgusting and should be illegal.
 
The absentees should be tossed from office. They should also be levied a fine for obstructing the normal legislative process. 
 
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reefdiver       2/25/2011 1:54:02 AM
In Indiana, the State Constitution allows for punishing "disorderly behavior". In addition the State House rules require all members to be present unless their absence been excused by the Speaker of the house or they are sick or unavoidably detained.  If they filibuster, they are at least obeying the rules, by leaving the state they have violated them and they should be punished. Currently, to add insult, the fugitive Democrat house members are actually being paid while they're out of the state.  In the meantime, bills are expiring due to their time deadlines. Some 21 bills may be killed by this. The dems are blackmailing the republicans by saying they'll only return if all the bills they don't like are killed first.
 
In effect, the Democrats in Indiana now essentially claim the minority has the right to use this to kill any bills they want - call it an extra-constitutional veto. Think about it for a moment. This is likely to be the standard actions in the future by both parties. The legislative process has effectively been destroyed in Indiana, and perhaps in Wisconsin as well.
 
Incidently, in Wisconsin, the issue was minor financial cutbacks for government unions and the loss of some - but not all - collective bargaining rights. Indiana on the other hand is trying to pass Right To Work - wherein an employee may not be forced to join a union or pay dues to it.  In neither state to do the union mind that they are demanding government support their right / privilege at the expense of taking freedom from others.
 
 
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YelliChink       3/1/2011 10:38:12 AM
This brilliant picture sums it all up:
 
 
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