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Subject: if China invaded North America what would happen?
kuznet    4/25/2004 11:50:11 PM
Seriously I know this is ludicrous, since China does not have the logistical capability let alone the transport assets. But let's assume they did what do y'all think would be the result on both sides. I mean invasion of USA/Canada.. Remember for how bad the PRC is they still have 20+ nukes longrange, over 200+ su27/30's. X2 Sovremenny's with sunburn missles that are designed to hit naval assets. Lastly they have all those cheap ming subs+ few kilos to create havoc in the Taiwan corrider for us CVN fleets. No doubt the USA could mount massive destruction with the press of a few buttons, let alone the navy and usaf also. I see massive casualties if nukes were launched on Bejing, Shanghai and all other major centres. Same goes for LA,and all the US west coast to Vancouver BC.. crazy thought if USA defends Taiwan this could happen? ^_* I hope this science fiction never materializes. NYET btw I am in North America..
 
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sentinel28a    RE:if China invaded North America what would happen?   6/4/2004 5:14:44 PM
I don't think the "Chinatown 5th column" is all that plausible, either. A lot of residents there fled the PRC, and many more consider themselves Americans rather than Chinese. We might end up with another Go-For-Broke RCT.
 
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Warhammer    RE:if China invaded North America what would happen?   6/4/2004 5:37:50 PM
"Chinatown 5th collumn" isn't necesarily plausible, but that would be an easy way to sneak in all kinds of sabatuers and the like. And, it would be a good place to form up a Chinese army. What if the Chinese started sending students over here under the guise of escaping a dictatorship, or to "learn" from our universities, or as just plain tourists? For the most part, it would probably end up something similar to our fanatic arab problem, but it could amount to far more than what the arabs have done if the Chinese really set their mind and resources to it. Well, they already have nukes. And they have enough people that they can afford to lose millions in a Red Chinese Jihad. I think it all boils down to: China F*** with US = China relearns how to read and write after we demolish their civilization We have a good 20 years before anything really practical would come out of a Chinese invasion attempt. Probably 20 years from now you might give it another 20. Just one of those things you have to wait and find out the outcome.
 
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Nappy    RE:if China invaded North America what would happen?   6/4/2004 7:29:12 PM
There is no way that China could effectively invade the U.S. and win. But on the otherhand, there is no way that the U.S. could invade and win. Nuclear weapons are out of the question due to MAD.
 
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doggtag    RE:if China invaded North America what would happen?   6/4/2004 9:28:43 PM
...kind of like a Chinese version of "Bay of Pigs"?.
 
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Warhammer    Nukes   6/5/2004 8:45:14 PM
When it comes to China, the MAD doesn't exactly apply. They don't have an amount of nukes that could effectively scare us into not using ours if it came down to it. The United States wouldn't nuke them, just because that is how we are, not because we are afraid of their 20 ICBMs that our current anti-missile systems could handle. MAD only comes into effect when you are looking at numbers like between the US and Russia, or near equal numbers like between India and Pakistan.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan    On Watch   6/6/2004 4:24:38 AM
Idiot
 
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ghettovet    RE:if China invaded North America what would happen?   6/6/2004 8:50:02 AM
I have read alot of vigilanty hunter citizen stuff on this thread. Am i the only one who thinks that a bunch of rednecks with guns who hunt animals that dont shoot back MIGHT just NOT be the most efficient fighting force. What i mean is that you take 20 guys with rifles in the woods and all the sudden machine guns and small mortars open up on them. Am i crazy or do these guys not run away. While i think that if the country was seriously under threat of being conquered, americans can be extremely dangerous. But if these hunters know that the military is out there and capable of doing the job my guess is they will not risk hunting game that shoots back.
 
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On Watch    Hunters & The Hunted   6/6/2004 11:48:26 AM
>>if these hunters know that the military is out there . . .they will not risk hunting game that shoots back. -- ghettovet<< It's not only the American Sportsman who should strike fear in the hearts & minds of a potential USA invader! It's the lethal combination of bulldozers, dumpsters, and backyard welders that they'd have to contend with! On Watch
 
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Warhammer    RE:Hunters & The Hunted   6/6/2004 2:05:41 PM
Bulldozers is right lmao. Did you see that guy the other day that made his dozer into a tank and started rampaging about town because of some zoning issues? Whatever we americans do to ourselves, you can bet it will be 10 times worse to anyone invaders. The difference in the hunters and the machine guns is that all the hunters are 500 yards away "hunting" the machine guns, and playing hit and run guerilla tactics. Of course, anyone with a rifle coming face to face with an AK is going to run away to snipe another day, that is just plain common sense. Of course, I also know some hunters who have Uzis, Mac-10s, AR-15s, and even grenade launchers that could probably hold their own against an AK.
 
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Sophmore    RE:if China invaded North America what would happen?   6/6/2004 11:49:08 PM
Lets see china could pull it off buy a million or so U.S. Airways tickets Shang-hi to L.A. then fed-ex the equipment how much do you think the International Shiping on a T-72 costs? a full scale invasion across the Pacific ocean would be an impossibility for china no matter what. Even with the logistic capibilities comparible to the US army and A Navy of comparible size a full scale invasion of the north americian contient would be impossible without first invading russia the bering striat is about the only place with a decent forward base i mean if they tried to land on the coast of California it would simply be to far. there is no good place for the PRC to establish a fowrard base agianst us without taking on russia and i see no way short of nuclear weopons for china to survive such a conflict. while they sieze seberia piss of the russians then they invade alaska piss of the us inebitily go through canada piss of canada the UK would now be involved with Austrialia to. Then with the PLA getting riped to shreds in north America the India would see its chance to punish China. Now chinas fighting at least 3 fronts. Even Vietnam might jump in on this bandwagan and take back some ancestrial lands. 1 billion + pop or not you aint getting out of this one alive. Its a lose lose situation for china to try. Now they could do it in succesion pacify russia first then attempt for Alaska. This is what they'd do if they had any sense but still any invasion of the USA would not go over while in Europe they may hate us now. But they'd hate china running the show even more.
 
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