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Subject: Obama to GOP(And a lot of SP posters): I Won
DarthAmerica    1/23/2009 5:16:29 PM
By: Jonathan Martin and Carol E. Lee January 23, 2009 04:49 PM EST President Obama listened to Republican gripes about his stimulus package during a meeting with congressional leaders Friday morning - but he also left no doubt about who's in charge of these negotiations. "I won," Obama noted matter-of-factly, according to sources familiar with the conversation. The exchange arose as top House and Senate Republicans expressed concern to the president about the amount of spending in the package. They also raised red flags about a refundable tax credit that returns money to those who don’t pay income taxes, the sources said. The Republicans stressed that they want to include more middle class tax cuts in the package, citing their proposal to cut the two lowest tax rates — 15 percent and 10 percent — to ten percent and five percent, rather than issue the refundable credit Obama wants. At another point in the meeting, sources said Obama told the group: “This is a grave situation facing the country.” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Obama would hold another economic meeting in the White House Saturday for a "broader group." After Friday's meeting, Democratic and Republican leaders publicly wrangled over the developing stimulus plan. But perhaps taking a cue from Obama’s “I won” line when Democrats were asked if they were concerned about Republicans blocking the package, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid had a swift one-word answer: “No.” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the bill was on track for passage by February 16, while Republicans continued to voice their opposition. “We expressed our concerns about some of the spending that’s being proposed in the House bill,” House Minority Leader John Boehner said after meeting with Obama. “How can you spend hundreds of millions of dollars on contraceptives?” Boehner asked. “How does that stimulate the economy?” Boehner said congressional Republicans are also concerned about the size of the package. “Government can’t solve this problem,” he said. Reid said a Congressional Budget Office report that says the stimulus funds won’t be pumped into the economy until 2010 doesn’t provide an accurate picture. Republicans have used the report to back up their argument against a near $1 trillion package. But Reid said Obama Office of Management and Budget director Peter Orszag told them CBO only analyzed 40 percent of the bill. He also said Orszag guaranteed “that at least 75 percent of the bill would go directly into the economy within the first 18 months.” Pelosi suggested that the package, currently at $825 billion, could become even larger. “It has grown,” Pelosi said, “and we’re still in the process.” Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia, the No. 2 House Republican, said Obama’s team was receptive to some Republican ideas about increasing benefits to small businesses. But, he said, “There are some philosophical questions that may not be able to be resolved.” Some Republican plans were clearly non-starters with the new president, he said – including GOP calls to put off tax hikes during the recession. “He rejected that out of hand and said we couldn’t have any hard and fast rules like that,” said Cantor. Lisa Lerer and Josh Gerstein contributed. © 2008 Capitol News Company, LLC --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hugs and Kisses -DA
 
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kensohaski       1/25/2009 4:46:39 PM
Darth,
 
Email me if you get a chance...
 
 
Thanks...  Hope all is well
 
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PlatypusMaximus       1/25/2009 5:24:24 PM
Government spending ain't good but no country has ever come out of major recession without government intervention.
 
 
Probably never gone into one without them, either. By Q2...March or so...We should be able to honestly ask ourselves that one important question...is Government doing enough fast enough?
 
The we can go to work unlocking and solving the mysteries of that Constitution puzzle.
 
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Necromancer    CJH   1/25/2009 10:49:16 PM
I said Obama is not born again, besides I have nothing against Christians, its just the radical religious types that are now back before where Reagan bought them into mainstream. Even those like Rush are quite comedic- Rush is that a coke rush implied? So CJH you must be pro-marijuana if you are pro medicinal uses of cocaine?? hmm???
 
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HERALD1357    Sysop: I PROTEST!   1/26/2009 1:11:24 AM

I said Obama is not born again, besides I have nothing against Christians, its just the radical religious types that are now back before where Reagan bought them into mainstream. Even those like Rush are quite comedic- Rush is that a coke rush implied? So CJH you must be pro-marijuana if you are pro medicinal uses of cocaine?? hmm???

That is a LIBELOUS statement!
 
Herald
 
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Necromancer    oooh Herald- Sysops why don't u purge this fool- this is common knowledge   1/26/2009 1:14:24 AM



I said Obama is not born again, besides I have nothing against Christians, its just the radical religious types that are now back before where Reagan bought them into mainstream. Even those like Rush are quite comedic- Rush is that a coke rush implied? So CJH you must be pro-marijuana if you are pro medicinal uses of cocaine?? hmm???





That is a LIBELOUS statement!

 

Herald



 
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HERALD1357    The evodence speaks for itself.   1/26/2009 1:29:59 AM
CREF immediately above, Herk the Jerk.
  
Herald
 
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jastayme3       1/26/2009 3:28:42 AM

I said Obama is not born again, besides I have nothing against Christians, its just the radical religious types that are now back before where Reagan bought them into mainstream. Even those like Rush are quite comedic- Rush is that a coke rush implied? So CJH you must be pro-marijuana if you are pro medicinal uses of cocaine?? hmm???

So you have nothing against Christians as long as the don't get uppity? Presumably some of your best friends are Christians.
 
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JIMF       1/26/2009 5:44:26 PM

Judge Obama on Performance Alone

Let's not celebrate more ordinary speeches.

With the noon sun high over the U.S. Capitol, Barack Obama yesterday took the oath of office to become president of the United States. On one level, it was a simple matter of political process -- the symbolic transfer of power. Yet words alone cannot convey its meaning.

The calloused hands of slaves, the voices of abolitionists, the hearts of generations who trusted in the naïve promise that any child can become president, will find some reward in a moment that was hard to imagine last year, much less 50 years ago. Our history, so marred by the sin of slavery, has come to the day when a man that an old segregationist would have described as "tea-colored" -- the child of a white woman and an African immigrant, who identifies as a member of the long oppressed and despised black minority -- was chosen by a mostly white nation as the personification of America's best sense of self as a nation of power and virtue.
At the end of the 1965 march calling for passage of the Voting Rights Act, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. said politics held the potential to reflect the brilliance of the American creed of justice for all, and a "society at peace with itself, a society that can live with its conscience." Years of hard work lay ahead to shift racist attitudes born of political power being limited to white Americans, he said, then added that "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice. How long? Not long. Because mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord!"

It is neither overweening emotion nor partisanship to see King's moral universe bending toward justice in the act of the first non-white man taking the oath of the presidency. But now that this moment has arrived, there is a question: How shall we judge our new leader?

If his presidency is to represent the full power of the idea that black Americans are just like everyone else -- fully human and fully capable of intellect, courage and patriotism -- then Barack Obama has to be subject to the same rough and tumble of political criticism experienced by his predecessors. To treat the first black president as if he is a fragile flower is certain to hobble him. It is also to waste a tremendous opportunity for improving race relations by doing away with stereotypes and seeing the potential in all Americans.

Yet there is fear, especially among black people, that criticism of him or any of his failures might be twisted into evidence that people of color cannot effectively lead. That amounts to wasting time and energy reacting to hateful stereotypes. It also leads to treating all criticism of Mr. Obama, whether legitimate, wrong-headed or even mean-spirited, as racist.

This is patronizing. Worse, it carries an implicit presumption of inferiority. Every American president must be held to the highest standard. No president of any color should be given a free pass for screw-ups, lies or failure to keep a promise.

During the Democrats' primaries and caucuses, candidate Obama often got affectionate if not fawning treatment from the American media. Editors, news anchors, columnists and commentators, both white and black but especially those on the political left, too often acted as if they were in a hurry to claim their role in history as supporters of the first black president.

For example, Mr. Obama was forced to give a speech on race as a result of revelations that he'd long attended a church led by a demagogue. It was an ordinary speech. At best it was successful at minimizing a political problem. Yet some in the media equated it to the Gettysburg Address.

The importance of a proud, adversarial press speaking truth about a powerful politician and offering impartial accounts of his actions was frequently and embarrassingly lost. When Mr. Obama's opponents, such

 
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DarthAmerica       1/26/2009 7:54:37 PM





...   It should be noted that the final oath was without the Bible- due to expediency, ...






No one in the Obama administration had a Bible handy? 

I think I would have brought mine just so I could say it was used in the swearing in of a President.



 

NOT THE FIRST TIME A PRESIDENT WAS SWORN IN WITHOUT A BIBLE:

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-DA 
 
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PlatypusMaximus       1/26/2009 8:57:12 PM
Not the first black president, either...according to some Constitutional scholars, Condi Rice was, for 90 seconds (from noon till Biden was sworn in) our first black and our first woman president.
 
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