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Subject: Quebec secession
blacksmith    7/1/2004 12:50:19 AM
The BQ party scored highly in the recent election. The secessionists now holding more seats than they had in '95 during the last secession vote. The last secession vote failed by a hair. Is Quebec going to make the fatal plunge now and get the 50% + 1 vote? Will it happen before the rest of Canada kicks their bagettes out just to be rid of them? I read that the aboriginals in Quebec don't feel strongly about their 'French heritage'. If Quebec secedes, does it get split up itself along French, non-french lines?
 
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displacedjim    RE:Quebec secession   7/1/2004 11:45:30 AM
And if it does, how long before one half and/or the other of the rest of Canada figures they might as well just tap into the benefits of becoming American states? Aside from that, where would Canada's capital move to? Dispacedjim
 
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doggtag    RE:Quebec secession   7/1/2004 12:06:55 PM
Seriously, aside from some favorable major cities, are there any real strategic benefits Quebec offers that the other provinces cannot effectively cover themselves? Realizing Quebec would pretty much be like some of the inner African nations, or like maybe Luxembourg: Sure, they have their attractions to offer, but their presence is really little more than a piece of land no one else wants that takes up space in the middle of everything....
 
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StymiestxBlitz    Quebec secession   7/1/2004 10:47:17 PM
the BQ is no longer a secessionist party no they are now using there political power to get what they want for Quebec in the house. It is merely a voice for the french minority in Canada.
 
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blacksmith    RE:Quebec secession   7/1/2004 11:16:25 PM
Which begs the question, at what point does the rest of Canada say enough and boot them out? Democracies only function when the citizenry on the whole understand that there has to be give and take. I have not seen that the French are willing to give anything. They just take.
 
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Ehran    RE:Quebec secession   7/1/2004 11:37:25 PM
Ottawa is in ontario so it wouldn't have to move. believe it or not there is very little interest in becoming american states.
 
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Ehran    RE:Quebec secession   7/1/2004 11:41:59 PM
If quebec finds out the actual costs of leaving canada they will post haste drop the idea. about 2/3 of quebec was granted to the province after it joined confederation and is inhabited by indians who have zero desire to be citizens of the republic of quebec. the economic consequences would be pretty ugly as well. the line joe citizen has been fed is that they will do nothing but gain from independance and still they cannot summon up a simple majority. Once actual negotiations begin and the costs start to leak out i would expect the populace to recant their decision in very short order.
 
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displacedjim    RE:Quebec secession   7/1/2004 11:46:48 PM
D'OH! Blast, and here I'm really quite knowledgable at geography in general! Honestly, even as I was posting that, I was having a twinge of doubt about it. Oh well, the Ugly American strikes again. :-( I believe you about statehood, I didn't really think there was. I'm sure 99%+ of Canadians, like pretty much anybody regarding their country, love being Canadian rather than anything else. Displacedjim
 
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Ehran    RE:Quebec secession   7/3/2004 12:46:04 AM
no problem jim. i get cranky about running into so many americans who assume we are slavering for the chance to join the excited states.
 
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blacksmith    RE:Quebec secession   7/3/2004 1:49:44 AM
But is it really Canada without Quebec? The United States didn't take kindly to secession. The North just had to cure the South of its 'peculiar institution' and it became one country again. All you have to do is cure Quebec of it's frenchness and you're home free. Think of it like deprogramming a cult member.
 
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ilpars    Do Quebec have right of secession?   7/5/2004 8:42:17 AM
Please forgive my lack of knowledge. But do Quebec have a legal right of secession? Do American states have the right?
 
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